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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[Kam]

Poor draft after the first 5 or 6

I remember many wanted Pietrus.

True. 

That draft class was a dog. 

HOWEVER...

David West at #18

Boris Diaw at # 21

Kendrick Perkins #27

WTF are you smoking?

It was top heavy yeah... but one of the best classes ever based on the top alone.

[Zupzup]

30

[chipstern]

Poor draft after the first 5 or 6

I remember many wanted Pietrus.

True. 

That draft class was a dog. 

HOWEVER...

David West at #18

Boris Diaw at # 21

Kendrick Perkins #27

WTF are you smoking?

It was top heavy yeah... but one of the best classes ever based on the top alone.

You just answered your own question, Kamburger. 

By the time it was time for the Knicks to pick?  The cupboard was bare.

What aspect of that concept eludes you? 

[kiidcarter8]

The smart play was to keep Noah on board. If he didn't play nice, banish him; it's a rebuilding year, you can live with the lost roster spot.

But the stretch I'm not a fan of, as I think the Knicks better chance in free agency is in 2020, not 2019. This front office has done mostly good stuff - Fiz, restraint in the Butler situation, Knox/Robinson/Trier. But there's still that myopia - signing Baker and Hardaway to contracts that may not have hurt on day 1 but were ill-advised nonetheless, and now the failure to think sufficiently long-term with the Noah stretch.

I think the numbers may be different than many of us think

Isola and Scalbrine on Sirrius say that with the Noah stretch Knicks will have 31 mil to spend on a player in 2019-20.

They then go on to remind us that this does not include Kanter.  Joking around, they mimick Enes trying to recruit a big name - only to find out then that he cannot stay.

"Knicks need to shed some more money if they want to add a max guy and also keep Kanter".

[kiidcarter8]

KP not extended and will now be a restricted free agent when his deal is done.

[kiidcarter8]

And now, this:

https://www.lakersnation.com/lakers-news-feed-joakim-noah-provide-much-needed-depth-at-center/2018/10/15/

[luee]

Fantasy leaders for Hawks-Knicks. Young is one.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/atlanta-hawks-new-york-knicks-2018101718/

[Kam]

Poor draft after the first 5 or 6

I remember many wanted Pietrus.

True. 

That draft class was a dog. 

HOWEVER...

David West at #18

Boris Diaw at # 21

Kendrick Perkins #27

WTF are you smoking?

It was top heavy yeah... but one of the best classes ever based on the top alone.

You just answered your own question, Kamburger. 

By the time it was time for the Knicks to pick?  The cupboard was bare.

What aspect of that concept eludes you?

That it wasn't a good draft.

Leandro Barbosa 28
Josh Howard 29
Baby Shaq 34

[Yankguy1]

I'll go with 30.

[Kam]

Trey
Frank
The Junior
Sir Lance
EKant Playdee

[risingearly]

I'll pick 32...

Los 22
Biz 23
Bank 24
Nagel 25
J Straw 31
Chip 33
Kam 33
Fac 34

Nobody else, then?

[Kam]

https://www.facebook.com/groups/277665976422244/about/

[bankshot1]

Well tip off is in about 4 hours and hoping for a better opener than last year.

I think the challenge for Stevens will be keeping everyone happy as he divvys the PT. And as it seems Gordo is still not 100% he may ease the PT problem initially. He looked slow and tentative in the pre-season games I saw.

Celts are deep and good and expectations are high-with a very legit chance to play for the championship, But lets see how they stack up against one of the other expected Eastern heavyweights, the 76ers and then another game Friday against the Raptors, and then Saturday night in the other Garden.

Should be fun.

Good luck guys.

[chipstern]

Trey
Frank
The Junior
Sir Lance
EKant Playdee

Makes sense. 

Take a bit of pressure off of Kevin, and make him earn it. 

So who is the second unit then?

Mudiay/Baker
Dotson/Lee
Knox/Lee/Hezonja
Hezonja/Vonleh
Vonleh/Kornet/Robinson

Also, Mudiay tweaked his ankle, so we could see Ntilikina plugged in at 1-3, and Baker getting real minutes at the 1.

It BEGINS. 

PS: Perry indicated that A) Noah did not fit with this group going forward, B) Spent all that time this past summer up through end of training camp trying to find a trade partner, C) Too expensive to come to a deal, as... D) Knicks unwilling to surrender #1 picks. 

PPS: So, the much heralded benefits of a 2019 stretch, weighed against chemistry of 2018-2019 roster, were weighed and rejected.  No surprise there. 

PPPS: As per roster space and cap space in 2019-2020?  Having cap space does not automatically presuppose a free agent signing, though it might.  It also sets the table for deals where some other team is looking to unload a contract, and if there is a team, such as the Knicks, who have cap space to absorb such a hit, there might be #1 picks available as a sweetener. 

PPPPS: In reviewing the history of the Knicks' Drafts from 2000-2018 on BASKETBALL-REFERENCE.COM, it is chilling to observe how many years we were going into the draft without #1 picks, and without #2 picks as well. 

[facilitatorn]

Not really news, but in a similar vein

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/251438/Knicks-Trying-To-Trade-Courtney-Lee