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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bankshot1]

Victor Oladipo and the Pacers pulled out a gritty one vs. the Celts.

Baynes shooting 3’s as well as he does makes quite a difference for how the C’s look.

Was a real good game. Back and forth, swapping leads for most of the 2nd half.

last minute it was KI and VO mano a mano.

Ironically KI made a couple of 3s in the final minute, but couldn't finish at the hoop on a tough back door reverse to seal the deal,

and then Victor shivved them with the 3. 

[kiidcarter8]

Tatum at 41%

Steals and blocks way down, turnovers way up.

Averaging just 5 boards his last five games

[kiidcarter8]

Suns release Tyson Chandler. He is looking to sign on with Lakers. McGee & Chandler is a very consistent very effective tandem on a team full of lob throwers.

Lakers need shooters

[kiidcarter8]

A gift that keeps giving.

Phil Jackson. 

Remember the JR/Iman trade that got us Lance Thomas. 

Not much of a haul, eh?

Well, the good news is that Phool copped Cleveland's 2019 pick. 

The bad news? 

Phool traded that pick to Orlando for Kyle O'Quinn. 

Orlando has the right to swap picks and take the better of our two #2 picks. 

And next summer they can choose between Cleveland's #2

OR...

Houston's. 

To be a Knick fan is to suffer.

I figured it out

Phil fucked Chip's sister and then never called

Only explanation for the continued vitriol against a guy who came back and tried to save a once proud franchise he once called home.

[Yankguy1]

Jackson's nobility only cost the Knicks 60 million.

[bankshot1]

Tatum at 41%

Steals and blocks way down, turnovers way up.

Averaging just 5 boards his last five games

Celtics offense in general is off, near the bottom of the league. Rotations and minutes are still being figured out. If i were to guess Marcus Morris is probably the only guy with YoY improvements. So I expect that will correct over time.

The team is 10 deep so Tatum is losing some opportunities, I expect that too will likely work out reaonably soon.

If it doesn't I exect to read a barrage of  posts which dump on Tatum.

[chipstern]

A gift that keeps giving.

Phil Jackson. 

Remember the JR/Iman trade that got us Lance Thomas. 

Not much of a haul, eh?

Well, the good news is that Phool copped Cleveland's 2019 pick. 

The bad news? 

Phool traded that pick to Orlando for Kyle O'Quinn. 

Orlando has the right to swap picks and take the better of our two #2 picks. 

And next summer they can choose between Cleveland's #2

OR...

Houston's. 

To be a Knick fan is to suffer.

I figured it out

Phil fucked Chip's sister and then never called

Only explanation for the continued vitriol against a guy who came back and tried to save a once proud franchise he once called home.

Don't have a sister. 

Fucked my brother.

Pausing only once to reload, fuck The Jizzer for 60 million on his way out the door, while enforcing a tired, outdated concept of triangular half court on a series ventriloquist dummies posing as coaches in the face of irrefutable evidence that the modern game had changed, saying he DIDN'T WANT ATHLETIC PLAYERS, then in a fit of pique, decided to destroy the trade value of our once a franchise player, then trade away our new franchise player because he hoit his fweelings. 

As you may or may not recall, I loved Phil Jackson, until he showed us all his ASS. 

PS: How did your sister like Phil's triangular dick?

[bankshot1]

and I just took a quick look at Tatum's #s after 9 games.

talk about kid's cherry picking a small sample size.

if Tatum averages a few more steals and blocks over the next 9 games, that small bag of cherries might be seen another way

And for some reason kid seemed to exclude that Tatum's assists are WAY up.

and fwiw in 9 games Tatums ppg (15.8  ) is up versus last year (13.9)

lies, damn lies, stats...

[kiidcarter8]

if Tatum averages a few more steals and blocks over the next 9 games, that small bag of cherries might be seen another way

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts........

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Re:  Tatum stats to date

With Heyward back you wouldnt thing Taco Jay would be shooting more - but he is (and again - 41% - Fultz territory)

To be fair, rebounds and assists are up.  As is the very impressive FT% (.88)


Win shares/48 (.117 from .139)  and VORP  (0.2 from 1. are of course down.  Maybe even Celts fans - the reasonable ones - expected that.

[kiidcarter8]

Tatum O/D rating

103/100

again - way down

[bankshot1]

if Tatum averages a few more steals and blocks over the next 9 games, that small bag of cherries might be seen another way

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts........

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Re:  Tatum stats to date

With Heyward back you wouldnt thing Taco Jay would be shooting more - but he is (and again - 41% - Fultz territory)

To be fair, rebounds and assists are up.  As is the very impressive FT% (.88)


Win shares/48 (.117 from .139)  and VORP  (0.2 from 1. are of course down.  Maybe even Celts fans - the reasonable ones - expected that.

Word to the wise: So I understand you won't understand.

9 games is a small sample size to draw conclusions particularly with injured players being re-integrated into a deep team.

that is to say its all but meaningless to draw conclusions today about what you might find in January, April or June.

But i see after I called you out for your cherry picking, you've included a few more cherries in your bag, but those cherries are also kind of meaningless.

Again basketball is a team game, where skills are blended, and flaws hidden, its not a fantasy game where one player's #s are necessarily indicative of success.

[chipstern]

Tatum O/D rating

103/100

again - way down

The point you are trying to make eludes me, homes?

Tatum is overrated? 

Uh huh. 

This from someone who obsessively posts about Glimmers of Jimmer piling up stats against Class A Podunk competition. 

If our own Kevin Knox evolves along the lines of the Celtics' Tatum I will be ecstatic. 

[kiidcarter8]

Yes.  Like many good players Tatum - who I have always liked and would have loved to be a Knick - is a bit overrated

In Boston it becomes more vast.  But thats fandom.  Look at Benintendi - they have him in the Hall already.

[chipstern]

Tatum is a prototypical big wing in the new look run and gun NBA. 

Unless I miss my guess, you do not share my enthusiasm for Danny Ainge and the deal he crafted in copping both Tatum and a #1 for Fultz.

Fultz looks to be coming along, but I make that trade 99 times out of 100. 

MEANWHILE: Warming up to Robinson & Trier yet? 

[bankshot1]

Yes.  Like many good players Tatum - who I have always liked and would have loved to be a Knick - is a bit overrated

In Boston it becomes more vast.  But thats fandom.  Look at Benintendi - they have him in the Hall already.

Kid everyone on this forum knows you spent most of last year shitting on Tatum until it became more than obvious he was a player with a lot of talent and a huge upside.

So stop the BS.

and for this forum's reference kid crapped on Benintendi, a pretty good player, (and no one in Boston has him HoF bound) for the past 2 years.

It became a joke on the AL baseball forum, where after a 10D good play or he delivered a big hit, I would generally post  "10d sucks"

kid has a hard time owning his hot takes that are mind-numbingly dumb, but to his credit he keeps on pumping them out, and bullshitting about them when he's proven wrong.