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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[facilitatorn]

Remember or lead chucker cant quite hit .400, so a lot of good set up passes hit a shooter who goes clang and those passes go unmarked and unremembered.

[luee]

Statistically he’s not as bad as Mudiay and not as good as Burke, both in terms of number of dimes and in terms of assists to turnovers.

Checked the stats Mud is considerably better at APG than Franc.

https://www.foxsports.com/nba/stats?season=2017&category=ASSISTS&group=1&sort=5&time=0&pos=0&team=0&qual=1&sortOrder=0&opp=0&page=1

[facilitatorn]

That was for 2017-2018.

This year frank is getting 2.7 dimes to 1.3 TOs.

This year manny is getting 2.3 dimes to 1.5 TOs.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/new-york-knicks-team-stats?season=2018&category=ASSISTS&group=1&time=0

[Nagel]

so they both suck in other words.

but they are only 19.  or 23 or whatever.

[kiiidcarter8]

That was for 2017-2018.

This year frank is getting 2.7 dimes to 1.3 TOs.

This year manny is getting 2.3 dimes to 1.5 TOs.

http://www.foxsports.com/nba/new-york-knicks-team-stats?season=2018&category=ASSISTS&group=1&time=0

Heh

[kiiidcarter8]

Tough to get assists when running with Burke or Trier

Mudy's assist % IS a tick higher this year than Ntilikina.

Last year was much higher.

Both down this year playing with off guards who like to do their own creating

Would love to see some Mudiay/Frank, KNOX, Hardaway, Vonleh, Kanter minutes.  2 knock down wings.

[Nagel]

are you looking at the stats?

knock down what?

bowling pins?

the Coen brothers are writing this forum.

[lesterluv]

A lot of #'s for a lot of guys might be a lot different if we actually had some plays and players ran together for a lot of minutes.

[kiiidcarter8]

are you looking at the stats?

knock down what?

bowling pins?

You can't be serious.

[kiiidcarter8]

When Mudiay plays with Burke or Trier he often stands in the corner to start the action

Is this deferring or by design

At 7-16 I would think a new "design" might be pondered.

Pick and roll with your most athletic point guard?  OUTLANDISH!, they screamed.

[kiiidcarter8]

Hardaway got 2 minutes at the point first quarter

Shocking.

[bodiddley]

I get on the computer, Knix down about 12 late 3rd.
By the time I get the game on, Knix down 2 to start the 4Q.
Knox looks terrific, then does a lot more.
Knix get down, crowd gets loud, Knix tighten it up late.
Great game.

4Q heroes:
Knox, Mud, Datsun, Vonleh, Tim

OT

[carlos123]

Wow, what a game!

Go Knicks!!!

[bodiddley]

Mud makes an awkward pass to Vonleh which gets batted away right back to Mud who makes a layup.  Thereafter Mud decides he's hot and starts canning jumpers and 3's.  I don't think Bucks minded Mud taking clutch 3's, and they defended him well, and he knocked them down.  Mud's best game as a Knick?
Franc - DNP; Burke Uno Minuto.

I've been wondering if all of our Points need Big Minutes to impact a game.  Franc seems to play better when he gets closer to 30 mins.  Mud too.  Burke seems to do better with long stretches, until he gets winded (he plays at a high tempo).
Something to think about.

Anyway, great game. 
Lopez should have knocked down 2 FT's to send it to 2OT.
And Anti-Greek got the 2nd rebound but couldn't hold the ball cleanly. Probably rushed because of the minimal time left.

I was a bit nervous about Kornet out there to rebound.  I don't like bringing in a guy cold for a key moment, especially a real young guy.  but it turned out Giannis slithered around our main boarder, Kanter.
 
Wonder why Middleton didn't play 4Q & OT.  He's kind of a Knick killer. 

Knix really looked like a team on both ends.
Really enjoyed Vonleh's grit.
And Tim willing to defer when Mud was hot and Tim was off.
Lotta up and down from Tim.
Tim's in a regularly scheduled Tim shooting slump, but doing some other things.

[facilitatorn]

Knox answered the question of if he’s the kind of guy who can play an important role in a tough close game.

Dotson Hardaway Mudiay Trier will be enough guards to go against most teams most nights.

If our staff can do for Frank what they did for Mudiay’s finishing and confidence, hold Frank. It doesn’t matter if he falls out of the rotation. Keep training and growing the kid.

Though both Vonleh and Robinson fouled out, it was key that they did it over more minutes and were able to heavily impact the game.

The occasional win is good for morale. I really enjoyed this one.