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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kiiidcarter8]

I saw an article predicting a Fultz for Ariza trade.

With Ariza filling the Covington 3&D SF gap.
And being just a 1 year rental.
And PHX in such a rebuild and so far off the NBA tourist map that they could be patient with Fultz and hope he pairs with Booker well.
Opens up time for Bridges.

Philly will certainly wait until after Dec 15 to make a deal.

Ariza was always a weird FA acquisition for the Suns.
But he got a payday and they got an asset and a couple months of mentoring Bridges and their other wing yute.

Well..........Sun's misusing Anderson.   

Sure.  Good deal.

[bankshot1]

kid is still assessing the 76ers- Celts trade.

I've have a pretty good idea what the Celts got, but am still pondering if the 76er end of the bargain was half-empty or half-Fultz?

[bodiddley]

As for Wiz, Yes their bench has been and still is poor.

Wall did improve his game from end-to-end blur to actually passing to teammates.  But Wall still plays iffy D.  And terrible transition D.  He's taken up the mantle of superstar who rarely bothers to get back from Wade.  Wall still isn't good in halfcourt clutch situations.  Because his 3-ball isn't that good and he gets smothered on drives and isn't good at running halfcourt sets.  He's also somewhat injury prone.

The idea of Wall is reminiscent of Melo.  Get a somewhat flawed star who is one of the highest paid in the League and watch him lead your team nowhere while sucking up cap space.  But Melo was (I think) 2 years younger, had impressive Olympic credentials, had been very clutch on Denver and was fully healthy.  Players liked Melo and his conditioning was never an issue.  The only advantage I see for Wall is that he plays the crucial PG position and it can be hard to obtain a high quality starting PG.  Also he'll be too old to re-sign to a ridiculous follow-up 2nd contract. 

Neither play defense or seem good at the "leadership thing" (tip of the hat to our recent dead president there).  Not denying Wall has talent, just that his salary outweighs that, and his flaws likely to keep his teams from going far.

[kiiidcarter8]

kid is still assessing the 76ers- Celts trade.

I've have a pretty good idea what the Celts got, but am still pondering if the 76er end of the bargain was half-empty or half-Fultz?

I have never assessed it from Sixers end.

[bankshot1]

kid is still assessing the 76ers- Celts trade.

I've have a pretty good idea what the Celts got, but am still pondering if the 76er end of the bargain was half-empty or half-Fultz?

I have never assessed it from Sixers end.

you didn' like "half-Fultz"?

To be fair, Fultz hasn't given you a lot to assess.

maybe closer to 1/10 Fultz.

But you did spend a fair amount of time last year taunting/trashing Tatum until it became glaringly obvious that Tatum was a standout rookie.

So a year+ post-trade, have you made any progress in assessing the pros and cons of the trade?

[Kam]

I saw an article predicting a Fultz for Ariza trade.

Philly will certainly wait until after Dec 15 to make a deal.

Philly would have to include more to make the salaries work.

Maybe if they trade Fultz for Lee they can trade Lee for Ariza.

[kiiidcarter8]

Hmmm

My bad - Machado IS playing

One of 3 NBA quality players in this game

All are Lakers though Knicks lead by 5.  Funny.

MVP has been Theresa Wetherspoon behind the mike.

[Kam]

Philly's GM (Elton Brand) did not draft Fultz.  He did not trade for Fultz.  He has no allegiance to Fultz and little invested in him.  To Brand, Fultz is just another young player on their talented roster.  This young player is making 8.5mil going up 2 mil to 10.5 and another 2 to 12.5.  So he is not just a player, he is a player with a contract far outstripping his current value on the court. 

So he has no need or reason to be patient with Fultz.  Even if you believe in Fultz, is he worth that salary?

This is not a desirable asset - not just for the shoulder issues, but for the #1 pick contract that accompanies it.

Forget living up to expectations of greatness, just living up to 12.5 in two more years is in question.

Young players are usually Salary neutral or great bargains.  Fultz is neither.

[kiiidcarter8]

Hmmm

Good point about the contract

[kiiidcarter8]

Kadeem Allen is a horror

[kiiidcarter8]

kid is still assessing the 76ers- Celts trade.

I've have a pretty good idea what the Celts got

...and I know what you didn't get

Does Tatum get Porter money plus?

For dwindling percentages, little ball movement and MEH board skills?

Lonzo would have been an All time great Celtic.  Ainge was spooked by dad.  Sad.

[bankshot1]

kid is still assessing the 76ers- Celts trade.

I've have a pretty good idea what the Celts got

...and I know what you didn't get

Does Tatum get Porter money plus?

For dwindling percentages, little ball movement and MEH board skills?

Lonzo would have been an All time great Celtic.  Ainge was spooked by dad.  Sad.

Tatum + a potential lottery pick for Fultz was the trade.

Not the hundreds of millions Tatum will earn in future years, or the years spent on the shrink couch for Fultz.

its all irrelevant.

and you know it.

Kid-your childish insecurity to continue to skirt the issue and evade the glaringly obvious answer, as you seem think it  would be a sign of weakness is the only thing that is sad here.

SSDD

[bodiddley]

Blake looking real good v MIL.
But Bled just eating up Ish and Reg Jax.
ThonMaker having a real nice game, hustling on D, setting picks, popping in 2 corner 3's.

Most fun is Zaza and The Greek annoying each other.  Finally, Anti-Greek just barrels right over Zaza, getting called for a charge, with both players getting knocked down backwards.

Zaza such an annoying physical presence.   Tough guy, not particularly skilled.

I get to watch Brogdon and Stan John.  The former playing well.  Stan just a little off.  been aggressive on both ends but just not finishing. 

MIL getting to all loose balls.

[carlos123]

G League alert

Westchester vs Lakers (no Machado)

Currently on msg.

So.....

ask me who looks good.

Afraid nobody's interested in mini-Trump's opinion, la opinión del Trumpo Chico.

[kiiidcarter8]

Tatum + a potential lottery pick for Fultz was the trade.

How so?  They didn't like Fultz.