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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Laughing all the way
All contracts after 32 should be 1 year.  In every sport.

I've proposed all NBA contracts to be only 50% guaranteed.
Bad contracts wouldn't hamper teams nearly as much.
Injuries wouldn't wreck the cap and team as easily.
Would reduce insurance costs as well.

But there's no way I would have given CP3 a 4 year contract averaging $40M.  2 year?  Okay, I guess.  Or a 3 or 4 year at half that value ($20M a year).   Maybe.

Was any other team paying CP3 4/$160M?
And if so, you keep Ariza and find a PG somewhere.
Mostly Harden can play PG anyway.

CP3 is aging and has a long history of leg injuries.

[chipstern]

Houston Rockets point guard Chris Paul will be out indefinitely after suffering a strained left hamstring

Paul is 33 and not even half a season into a four-year, $159.7 million contract that he signed with Houston in July.

Noah is also hurt again. 

surprise...Surprise...SURPRISE

[kiiidcarter8]

Laughing all the way
All contracts after 32 should be 1 year.  In every sport.

I've proposed all NBA contracts to be only 50% guaranteed.
Bad contracts wouldn't hamper teams nearly as much.
Injuries wouldn't wreck the cap and team as easily.
Would reduce insurance costs as well.

But there's no way I would have given CP3 a 4 year contract averaging $40M.  2 year?  Okay, I guess.  Or a 3 or 4 year at half that value ($20M a year).   Maybe.

Was any other team paying CP3 4/$160M?
And if so, you keep Ariza and find a PG somewhere.
Mostly Harden can play PG anyway.

CP3 is aging and has a long history of leg injuries.

Yeah......problem is that when at his best CP3 can be the difference between a conference finalist and an NBA champ.

"Odds he stays healthy" doesn't enter the equation.

[kiiidcarter8]

Houston Rockets point guard Chris Paul will be out indefinitely after suffering a strained left hamstring

Paul is 33 and not even half a season into a four-year, $159.7 million contract that he signed with Houston in July.

Noah is also hurt again. 

surprise...Surprise...SURPRISE

Too bad.  He was playing well.

[thebizneverloses]

Mudiay.... i'm not paying him to put this act up.

Vonleh is the keeper.

Let's say no trades, no big name signings, Vonleh resigns, Kanter walks, and we draft, say, Cam Reddish. Do you prefer a) Mudiay at 15m/3 or b) Delon Wright at 24/3 or c) trade Trier + Dotson to Memphis for Mike Conley's $30m a year deal?

Obviously C is my first choice if Memphis is daft enough to make that deal.

or D  Do nothing

You'd rather have Frank and Trier as PGs next year than bring back Mudiay at sub-MLE money? Or are you saying you'd sign Burke?

I'm assuming Burke is elsewhere next year.

[kiiidcarter8]

A few on this forum, as with Hardaway, will never admit to being mistaken when evaluating Mudiay's potential.

[Kam]

Mudiay.... i'm not paying him to put this act up.

Vonleh is the keeper.

Let's say no trades, no big name signings, Vonleh resigns, Kanter walks, and we draft, say, Cam Reddish. Do you prefer a) Mudiay at 15m/3 or b) Delon Wright at 24/3 or c) trade Trier + Dotson to Memphis for Mike Conley's $30m a year deal?

Obviously C is my first choice if Memphis is daft enough to make that deal.

or D  Do nothing

You'd rather have Frank and Trier as PGs next year than bring back Mudiay at sub-MLE money? Or are you saying you'd sign Burke?

I'm assuming Burke is elsewhere next year.

The uptick in play from Mudiay we have seen.... (he looks more confident, finishing in the paint much better, still terrible shooter and defender)

do you want to pay for that .... or

play the younger kids and see what their uptick brings.

Is Mudiay the higher ceiling guy who will always tantalize with potential but semi-deliver?

I'd rather have someone more steady at the helm.

[Kam]

Would i roll the dice on Frank one more year... yes.  Not Mudiay.  Frank just needs to stop being the Wizard of OZ scarecrow/cowardly lion.  He is closer to being a more complete player than Mudiay will become.

[carlos123]

A few on this forum, as with Hardaway, will never admit to being mistaken when evaluating Mudiay's potential.

Which goes to prove YET AGAIN that Chico is always right and the rest of us are wrong, with maybe a few exceptions. Mr. Utley comes to mind...

[kiiidcarter8]

Mudiay.... i'm not paying him to put this act up.

Vonleh is the keeper.

Let's say no trades, no big name signings, Vonleh resigns, Kanter walks, and we draft, say, Cam Reddish. Do you prefer a) Mudiay at 15m/3 or b) Delon Wright at 24/3 or c) trade Trier + Dotson to Memphis for Mike Conley's $30m a year deal?

Obviously C is my first choice if Memphis is daft enough to make that deal.

or D  Do nothing

You'd rather have Frank and Trier as PGs next year than bring back Mudiay at sub-MLE money? Or are you saying you'd sign Burke?

I'm assuming Burke is elsewhere next year.

The uptick in play from Mudiay we have seen.... (he looks more confident, finishing in the paint much better, still terrible shooter and defender)

do you want to pay for that .... or

play the younger kids and see what their uptick brings.

Is Mudiay the higher ceiling guy who will always tantalize with potential but semi-deliver?

I'd rather have someone more steady at the helm.

Is Mudiay really semidelivering now?

[kiiidcarter8]

Would i roll the dice on Frank one more year... yes.  Not Mudiay.  Frank just needs to stop being the Wizard of OZ scarecrow/cowardly lion.  He is closer to being a more complete player than Mudiay will become.

You don't see things Mudiay is doing that Frank just doesn't/can't?

[facilitatorn]

Allowing 40 point first quarters, or is that on Kanter?

[Kam]

Would i roll the dice on Frank one more year... yes.  Not Mudiay.  Frank just needs to stop being the Wizard of OZ scarecrow/cowardly lion.  He is closer to being a more complete player than Mudiay will become.

You don't see things Mudiay is doing that Frank just doesn't/can't?

Is Mudiay the guy who puts up stats on a bad team tho?

Frank's unselfishness is the kind of gene winning teams are built on.
Frank has three years more runway to see to even get to Mudiay's age. 
Frank is already better on Defense.

I just like Frank's makeup more long term than a peaking Mudiay now.

[kiiidcarter8]

Allowing 40 point first quarters, or is that on Kanter?

Its been addressed.

A 39-29 quarter can't be Mudiay's when he was a -2.

[PrezIke]

I'm not advocating shipping Timmy out. 

Biz is the progenitor of that narrative. 

We need him because we haven’t got consistent scorers from the perimeter but we’re a very bad and young team.

Timmy for Jabari Parker?  Do Bulls do that?

CLee and Mud for Jabari? 

Lee and Lance for Jabari?


Let's make a dealio.

I'd do any of those, but like Biz pointed out. Would they?