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kidcarter8

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #3555 on: January 14, 2019, 04:57:46 PM »

Knox is just 19 and learning when to shoot.


What? Are u watching?  He shoots when he touches it.  Unless defended strongly.  Then he would kick to someone.  Nothing wrong with this.  And court awareness can be improved.  But let’s call it what it is.  Ball stops.
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« Reply #3556 on: January 14, 2019, 06:12:09 PM »

Having the youngsters Knox go for 30+ in 44 minutes  and Kornet go for 20+ in 32 minutes

Let's us have perspective over the current ICONS  Hardaway and Kanter

Might not be a coincidence that we had 24 assists!  Two black holes taken out of the lineup

Other than Mario +2, and Frank's regularly  scheduled comeback game (+10) before his aggression wears off again,   in a game we were down 20 something.. Kornet was a +25 and Knox a +11.

I think it's hard to be a +11 and play 44 minutes and still lose by 3 because your teammates gave 14 points back in the 4 minutes you weren't on the court.

We do have quite a few black holes I must say.
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« Reply #3557 on: January 14, 2019, 07:18:03 PM »

Program note

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« Reply #3558 on: January 14, 2019, 08:08:23 PM »

Keep your fingers and toes crossed that Knox continues to prove he got enough game to be Batman to KP's Robin.  Or Vice-a-versa.

You don't need to win the lottery to strike gold. 

If we've managed to nab two All-Star calibre guys who are still under 25 we will have our best decade to look forward to since the 90s.
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« Reply #3559 on: January 14, 2019, 09:28:29 PM »

Two all-stars or near all-stars is a good start. Both attack and spread the floor and have the potential to demand heavy doubling. Unfortunately, we won’t know for sure what they neeed between or around them beyond the obvious; guards who defend like devils and skillfully and purposefully distribute the ball.
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« Reply #3560 on: January 14, 2019, 09:46:40 PM »

Syracuse comes back from disastrous start and beats Duke!
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« Reply #3561 on: January 14, 2019, 09:50:15 PM »

Two all-stars or near all-stars is a good start. Both attack and spread the floor and have the potential to demand heavy doubling. Unfortunately, we won’t know for sure what they neeed between or around them beyond the obvious; guards who defend like devils and skillfully and purposefully distribute the ball.

Since Knox and KP should combine to form 2/3 of the frontcourt, the other guy would need to be a Draymond type.  A guy who won't need to have plays run for him, but who can really defend and do the dirty work, guard the other teams best big.  Doesn't need to be a big assist guy but that would obviously be great.

Is that guy Noah Vonleh?  Maybe.  But if he is, i think we need another one of those.

Not to replace Luke.  Luke is like a taller Steve Novak.  Keep Luke as 2nd/3rd string.

I would trade all our guards for a franchise PG.
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« Reply #3562 on: January 14, 2019, 10:27:24 PM »

We are in a really interesting situation with NV.

He has drawn interest from teams and will look to score a payday this summer.

No guarantee he stays here unless we make a godfather offer.

Meanwhile Philly is looking for another big man who can shoot and is willing to offer their #1.

What is the correct course of action?

* Sign him to a generous offer that uses some of the $29mil cap space
* Allow him to walk to another team and get nothing in return
* Trade him now for a #1 while selling high
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« Reply #3563 on: January 14, 2019, 10:53:09 PM »

Knox is just 19 and learning when to shoot.

What? Are u watching?  He shoots when he touches it.

Learning when to shoot implies also learning when not to.
Which is Trier's issue as well.

I should have added when and how to shoot.
Knox sometimes makes himself smaller instead of unfurling his length.
And Knox's little flips in the paint can be useful at times but frequently get blocked.

How and when to shoot (and when and how not to for those who need things very explicit).
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« Reply #3564 on: January 15, 2019, 01:09:36 AM »

Mudiay+HardawayJR+CLee  for Mike Conley

PRO:  Upgrade the PG position for us. 
PRO:  Played under Fizz before.  Will help install Fizz concepts and accelerate development of the young'uns (good veteran role model)
PRO:  We preserve all our cap space this summer since the salaries offset
PRO:  Could help attract a Free Agent like Durant or Leonard
PRO:  Can avoid a long term offer to Mudiay and get a 2.5 year mentor for Frank Ntilikina

CON:  Conley makes 34.5 mil in 20-21 ($16mil more than we would be paying Timmy if we kept him)
CON:  Memphis would have other offers if they decide to blow things up so we may need to throw other asset(s) like a future #1
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« Reply #3565 on: January 15, 2019, 01:26:44 AM »

Maybe it's this good Sensimilla but ... <toke>  cough cough... i think a Conley - KP - Knox trio could provided a very attractive landing spot for a KD.


And if he don't come we still have a respectable playoff worthy outfit.
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« Reply #3566 on: January 15, 2019, 01:30:44 AM »

I think O’quinn Only signed a one year deal. I like him still between KP and Knox. Vonleh is just fine, quicker and younger. For more offensive pop with a bigger price tag, Tobias Harris is unrestricted this summer. Alex Poythress is a lesser option. Marcus Morris and Theis are possible, though Celts have bird rights. DMC, RHJ, and Faried. Portis as RFA. Thad Young is a bit older, but with the right skill set. Wil Chandler, Muscala, and Amir Johnson are worth consideration. Markieff will be free. Maxi Klebler from Dallas. Trey Lyles RFA. Rudy Gay is an old timer who still produces. Aminu and Layman will be free from Portland. Richaun Holmes. Nicola Mirotic and Cheik Diallo from NO. Taj and Tolliver. Green from Memphis. Beasley back. Marquis Chriss is iffy but young. Jerebko, Looney, and Bell need new deals as well.

Many of these guys would not be looking to join the Knicks all things being equal, but a team wanting you more can mean a lot.

I like all these guys for next year better than Lance and Enes, who drag on the floor in different ways.
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« Reply #3567 on: January 15, 2019, 02:42:05 AM »

Lots of options.  If we can become known for developing young players that would be quite a feather in the cap.

Some of those we develop we must move.

Might have to move Vonleh and find the next Vonleh.
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« Reply #3568 on: January 15, 2019, 02:42:50 AM »

No Knick in the Top 50 Dunkers this season.

Lack  of easy baskets.
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« Reply #3569 on: January 15, 2019, 03:35:16 AM »

Lots of options.  If we can become known for developing young players that would be quite a feather in the cap.

Some of those we develop we must move.

Might have to move Vonleh and find the next Vonleh.

Keep Vonleh and find the other part of the bruising PF tandem assuming Zion doesn’t fall in our laps. Even if we sign a pricy forward I think Vonleh might still come back for the MLE.

Tobias, Thad, Taj, Looney, Aminu, Layman, O’Quinn, Theis, Muscala, would all be good. Only the first 5 could command Big time contracts based on where they are at.

KP Mitch Kornet
Looney Vonleh
Knox and maybe Mario who I’m warming up to as he calms down, dials in, and finds a role

That looks like a formidable front court, and leaves money for a young PG who thinks he can beat out our incumbents or even Mudiay if he further establishes himself this year.
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