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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

Young Lakes couldn't close out HOU.
Also had a lot of trouble running inbounds plays late 3Q and OT.
Might have helped if Luke was still there (ejected 3Q) instead of Shaw(?)   It's going to be a tough playoff road for the Lakes if they are 6-8 seed.  Though outside of GS, unclear who else is going to be a playoff juggernaut.  DEN inexperienced; Rustbrook prone to bad shooting with an iffy OKC bench; POR looks like a regular season team; HOU could be deadly, though their defense has slipped; Spurs old & slow and more a regular season team.

Remember when LeBJ seemed indestructible?
Just missed his 13th game with a groin strain.
Remember when Kobe was going to pass Kareem for most points ever?
Old guys get injured, recover slower, and when things drop off, the cliff is often precipitous. 

CP3 just missed his 14th game.
And look at poor Dirk.  Barely can get on the court, 3-17 FG in his last 4 games, every shot a 3 out of necessity.   His season high is 16 mins and he went 0-10 FG in that one for 0 points.  He's a mummy now.

[kidcarter8]

No Walton?

Please.

No Lonzo.

[bodiddley]

I was specifically referring to the inbounds plays.

I still don't like Ingram much.  There's talent there, but also sloppiness.  And a too-cool-for-school attitude or whatever vibe I'm picking up.

Was watching the Clips the other day and Shy-Gorgeous was doing Sean Livingston post-ups and shooting over the smaller Scurry.  Since he doesn't really have a 3-point shot yet, Livingston would be a good model for him.  (SGA is shooting 35% on 3's, but just 1.5 hoists a game).  SGA is basically what we hope for in Franc.  Not that ShyGuy is there yet, but he shows definite promise on both ends.

[kiidcarter8]

Shay and Monk over Knox and Frank.

[kidcarter8]

Ingram may be the next Harden

LA doesnt want to deal him but may have to.  Next locale - stardpm?  We will see

[facilitatorn]

Shay and Monk over Knox and Frank.

Not sure SGA is as good as Frank long term.

Monk is one dimensional and not all that good.

[bodiddley]

Monk looks limited.
Might take years before he finds his game (akin to Jeremy Lamb who has supplanted him) ... if he has one.

[kidcarter8]

Monk has been averaging 18 minutes all season

Ar 20, improved over 19.....

Knoxish?  Different player, but sure - when speaking of levels.

[bodiddley]

Monk hasn't started a game.
He's an undersized SG who can't shoot.
The only NBA skill he's demonstrated is FT shooting and he rarely gets to the line. 

Maybe on defense Knox and Monk have something in common (for now).  You'd be better off comparing Monk to Franc.

[kidcarter8]

Monk hasn't started a game.

Never said he did

Like Mudiay he gets 20 points per 36 minutes

[thebizneverloses]

I like Frank but I'd definitely take Shai over him. SGA just understands the game so well.

[bodiddley]

I like Frank but I'd definitely take Shai over him. SGA just understands the game so well.

Yep.  And has a nice bounce to him.
Been slumping some in January, but it's a long season for rooks.
And not easy to be a starting PG as a rook.

Uber-Watch:
Last 5 games averaging 20 & 7 boards on 48% / 42% shooting in 28 bench minutes.  Toss in roughly one block and one steal.

[kidcarter8]

Yeah

14, 3 and 1 overall with Suns but the shooting % is notable (46/38/73)

Still time for the young man.

Dekker has played less and is at 54% for Washington with some of Oubre's minutes.

Kelly had 0.7 assists in 26 minute with Wash - while Dekker gets 0.9 in 16.  Rebound per minute slightly to Dekker, who possesses a 16.3 PER for the year overall.

I think WASH did OK.  Many decisions still to make (I would deal Porter)

[bodiddley]

I think WASH did OK.  Many decisions still to make (I would deal Porter)

I don't think they did okay.  They traded a young promising SF for an old vet SF in Ariza, hoping to make the playoffs.  I don't think that was going to work, but almost immediately thereafter, Wall is done for the season, and adding Ariza looks pointless.*

Also, they waited too long to move Uber, so his value was down since he is a rookie-contract-ending deal, meaning he needs to get paid, while he's shown promise and flashes but not clearly starter material yet.  Still they could have moved Ube for another young guy.  Especially to a team with a good balance sheet that wouldn't mind paying Uber next year (a la PHX).  I'd have to look around for possibilities, but perhaps Skal Labisserie who has trouble finding minutes in Sacto.  Or Khem Birch in ORL.  Thon Maker?  Hell, I'd rather add Rich Holmes from PHX, a hard worker, rather than Ariza who will bolt first chance he gets. 

If they were going to deal Porter (not easy given his contract), then they should have kept Oubre as a replacement at likely half the cost or less next year.  The reason they dealt Uber was their cap is all clogged up with deals such as Wall and Porter's, so they weren't going to pay Uber the $12M +/-$2M he'll want.

So, I think Ernie made a hash of things.
* They should view Ariza as a trade asset and look to move him to a contender (HOU! or OKC or ??) before the deadline, and give Double Dekker bigger minutes.  That could salvage something from the mess they've made.

Can't say I trust Ernie to know Bernard King from Burger King these days, after he thought it was a good idea to add Au Revoir and Dwight to an already underperforming, dysfunctional team . . .

Meansowhile, Uber is averaging 14.5 & 4.2 Boards with PHX.  Your numbers tend to be wrong.  Also, when you support someone you like to inflate their contributions by citing per36, but apparently don't do it on players you don't like.

[thebizneverloses]

Bang on about everything there, Bo.