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Re: Hey Biz.... how is this allowed?
« Reply #4320 on: February 07, 2019, 08:29:13 AM »


Couple others......

This strikes me as weird...




FEB. 6

 team    ROCKETS
Acquired: Iman Shumpert, Nik Stauskas, Wade Baldwin


 team CAVALIERS
Acquired: Brandon Knight, Marquese Chriss, 2019 first-round pick (via Rockets, lottery protected)



FEB. 3

 team CAVALIERS
Acquired: Nik Stauskas, Wade Baldwin, 2021 second-round pick, 2023 second-round pick

 team TRAIL BLAZERS
Acquired: Rodney Hood

Since they were just acquired, the players cannot be aggregated in a deal, thus the Cavs and Rockets will make separate deals

Per NBAhoopsrumors

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4321 on: February 07, 2019, 08:30:48 AM »

Some Knicks info in there as well

Knicks may offer DeAndre their 5 mil exception for next year

Teams have been calling onn Dotson - Sacramento being one

John Jenkins may be brought back if Wiz let him go after his 10-day

And Kanter may in fact be bought out
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4322 on: February 07, 2019, 08:55:21 AM »


The Sixers went big on now. It will be interesting to see how they perform and if they can keep their band together.


If they extend Ben Simmons this summer the 76ers could be on the hook to pay $120mil for their Top 4 guys
Embiid, Simmons, Butler, and Harris. 

I could see a bunch of our ex-Knicks landing there as Bench Bros.

Conventional wisdom has Harris OR Butler being kept by Philly.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4323 on: February 07, 2019, 10:20:44 AM »

That's what I was thinking.


Kings got crushed by Rockettes.
Fox was ineffectual: 6 / 6 / 5 turnovers.
Hield with another half dozen miscues.
Giles is athletic and raw.  Interesting.

Odd team.  They pass the ball around for no advantage more than one would expect possible.

Not sure what the plan is with Hairy Barnes.
Fox - Hield - Barnes - Bjelica - WCS
Fairly solid.

I guess Barnes can play some PF and they can go smaller.
Now, they do a lot of Big lineups with WCS and Bagley.

One funny game subplot: CP3 kept getting Bigs switched on him, so he'd pound and pound and then jack off-target 3's.  This was mostly 2nd half when they were up 30, so no one cared.  But CP3 went 1-8 on 3's.  and it was kind of funny how he was determined not to pass but to "take advantage" of the mismatch.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4324 on: February 07, 2019, 11:04:26 AM »

So can we combine Wes and DeAndre together?

And can we combine them with another player?


Looks like the CAVS did just that.

Thanks Kiid for the explanation. Moves happened so fast I wasn't able to keep up.

Definitely cannot trade anyone with Wessy or DeAndre. The Kings and Wizards trades pretty much removed any hope of either player (or obviously Kanter) being moved since I don't think there is a market for them among teams with expiring deals.

All that to say - I'd be surprised if the Knicks made any trades. But Kanter will definitely be bought out, Wessy also likely. Hezonja a possibility.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4325 on: February 07, 2019, 11:06:07 AM »

Nice. Hope he plays well.

The Clips added picks, have a fatty trade exception, and are in the playoff hunt. Any of our guys they’d trade a pick for under 9 mil? I’m thinking possibly Mario...

This was a lets fall into the lottery move for them --  i think.

Exactly. Fascinating that they've been on the cusp of the playoffs two years in a row and basically traded out of the playoffs. Jerry West/Lawrence Frank/Steve Ballmer all deserve credit for their being far-sighted. Also, Doc was not supposed to win this many games this year or last year, he's kind of getting in the way of the tank. A better coach as an underdog than as the fave.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4326 on: February 07, 2019, 11:09:18 AM »


The Sixers went big on now. It will be interesting to see how they perform and if they can keep their band together.


If they extend Ben Simmons this summer the 76ers could be on the hook to pay $120mil for their Top 4 guys
Embiid, Simmons, Butler, and Harris. 

I could see a bunch of our ex-Knicks landing there as Bench Bros.

Conventional wisdom has Harris OR Butler being kept by Philly.

It might happen that one of those guys bolts (perhaps to Brooklyn?), but I don't think that's the conventional wisdom. More are presuming they keep all four and whoever they end up acquiring for Markelle Fultz.

By the way, Tobias Harris is better than Otto Porter or Harrison Barnes...but he is not two first round picks and Landry Shamet better than those guys. And you could argue Porter fit better in Philly as a fourth option and defender than Harris will (conversely, I don't think Chicago is a great team for Otto).
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4327 on: February 07, 2019, 11:12:45 AM »

Grizz and Raps -

Conley and Gasol for Jonas V and Lowry.  Lowry has already commented.

Reggie Bullock for Svi Michialuk - I think this one is done.  Pistons get a good athlete.....

Miami now has dealt Tyler Johnson to the Suns, who get their PG......
Heat get our old pal Ryan Anderson

Raps/Grizz deal appears to be dead, although Memphis, like Charlotte and Atlanta, is a team that I'm convinced will do something today because they kind of just have to.

Tyler Johnson isn't, in my eyes "their PG". He's just a guard, who can shoot, sure. But it's more likely that by opening night it's Garland or Ja or Brogdon or Sato or Rozier - any of those guys would have more appeal as a PG than Tyler Johnson will.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4328 on: February 07, 2019, 11:22:27 AM »

Grizz and Raps -

Conley and Gasol for Jonas V and Lowry.  Lowry has already commented.

Reggie Bullock for Svi Michialuk - I think this one is done.  Pistons get a good athlete.....

Miami now has dealt Tyler Johnson to the Suns, who get their PG......
Heat get our old pal Ryan Anderson

Raps/Grizz deal appears to be dead, although Memphis, like Charlotte and Atlanta, is a team that I'm convinced will do something today because they kind of just have to.

Tyler Johnson isn't, in my eyes "their PG". He's just a guard, who can shoot, sure. But it's more likely that by opening night it's Garland or Ja or Brogdon or Sato or Rozier - any of those guys would have more appeal as a PG than Tyler Johnson will.

Actually, I realise now that by keeping TJ they won't have the cap space to be important players in free agency, unless they renounce Kelly Oubre. So either they're planning on operating above the cap and think they can a) draft a PG b) get a starting PG with the MLE (you're not getting Brogdon for that money, but maybe someone like Sato or Delon) or, Kiid's right, and c) they already have their PG.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4329 on: February 07, 2019, 11:32:04 AM »

Marc Stein reporting that The Brow is equally interested in NYK and LAL as a long term home.  So the Knix could have looked for a 3rd team that wanted KZ to work out a way to get AD here. 

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4330 on: February 07, 2019, 12:19:34 PM »

Marc Stein reporting that The Brow is equally interested in NYK and LAL as a long term home.  So the Knix could have looked for a 3rd team that wanted KZ to work out a way to get AD here.

Well, NOLA wasn't likely to be trading him before the deadline/draft/Tatum's availability so by trading with Dallas the Knicks have effectively done this. NY couldn't wait until the summer to trade Porzingis for AD, too many complications would have arose
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4331 on: February 07, 2019, 01:28:45 PM »

Stauskas and Baldwin on the move again.... to Pacers.
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Mirotic three-way
« Reply #4332 on: February 07, 2019, 01:31:11 PM »

NO trades Nikola Mirotic to the Bucks for Detroit's Stanley Johnson  and a bunch of 2nd rd picks are exchanging hands.
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« Reply #4333 on: February 07, 2019, 01:36:46 PM »

NO trades Nikola Mirotic to the Bucks for Detroit's Stanley Johnson  and a bunch of 2nd rd picks are exchanging hands.

Unfair. That's robbery.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #4334 on: February 07, 2019, 01:39:31 PM »

So Bucks get Mirotic for Maker

Lets see how he fits
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