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Re: Knicks
« Reply #5655 on: May 11, 2019, 07:21:14 AM »

I always go into these Houston - GS elimination games expecting to root for the Rockets.
Sick of the Warriors. Let Houston have its turn., etc, etc., etc.,....

While watching, however, always end up rooting for GS.
They play basketball. Gotta respect that. Unlike that cynical, bastardized, boring-ass crap D'Ant & Harden serve up.

Plus, James Harden clearly doesn't believe in himself.
And if he doesn't, why should anybody else?

***Now...Go Blazers. Go Nuggets. Go 76ers. Go Bucks. Go Raptors...
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« Reply #5656 on: May 11, 2019, 07:23:46 AM »

I think they are better without Boogie.
And it was always clear they were a top team with or without KD.
Durant adds a good deal, but also takes away some too.

The main issue is GSW has a thin, not solid bench.
Looney has been playing well, understands his role, foul prone.
McKinnie athletic but inexperienced.
Livingston has aged.
Jereb a decent journeyman.
They don't seem to trust Jordan Bell.
Some talk Damion Jones might return in another series or two.

Adding KD and Boogie came at the cost of shoring up their bench.
I would have gone for a solid bench piece instead of Boogie, but I guess at $5M or whatever he was too tempting.

Other players who signed 1 year deals for $5.3M or less:
Brook Lopez: $3.4M
Ed Davis: $4.5M
Kyle O'Quinnthemightyeskimo: $4.4M
Tony Parker: $5M (2 years at $5M each)
Nene: $3.7M (2 year deal)
Elfin Payton: $3M
Lance: $4.5M
Seth Curry: $2.8M
Luol Deng: $2.4M
Vonleh: $1.6M

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« Reply #5657 on: May 11, 2019, 07:28:41 AM »

In this series, prob better without Boogie. 

Now, if you're going up against Embid or Jokic, not so clear.

But, yes, their bench certainly isn't what it has been.

Next series will be fun. Finals, whether they are in it or not, should be fun.
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« Reply #5658 on: May 11, 2019, 08:14:42 AM »

Verrrry disappointing last night.  Just a supreme HOF effort by Curry.  And credit the other Warriors for a first half that set the tone.

Go, Nuggets.
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« Reply #5659 on: May 11, 2019, 08:24:57 AM »

If I needed money I'd never bet on a James Harden team.
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« Reply #5660 on: May 11, 2019, 09:45:48 AM »

Chris Paul ain't won nothing neither ...

So with Durant out, GSW will probably add Melo to fill the void ...

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« Reply #5661 on: May 11, 2019, 11:10:40 AM »

Kid/Fac - picks for next round after the two G7s are done. Will post scores. Everyone will need to make some changes.
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« Reply #5662 on: May 11, 2019, 11:11:09 AM »

I always go into these Houston - GS elimination games expecting to root for the Rockets.
Sick of the Warriors. Let Houston have its turn., etc, etc., etc.,....

While watching, however, always end up rooting for GS.
They play basketball. Gotta respect that. Unlike that cynical, bastardized, boring-ass crap D'Ant & Harden serve up.


Totally.
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« Reply #5663 on: May 11, 2019, 11:44:46 AM »

I always watch Rockettes games wondering how anybody can root for them.  And HOU is basically China's team, so lots of Rockets/Harden fans here.

I wonder if Harden played the same style, but did things quickly if that would make a significant difference.  Instead of the standing with the ball, multiple dribbles and fakes, if he just drive, stepped-back, or passed quickly.  I think it'd be much more watchable and one could appreciate his game then.
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« Reply #5664 on: May 11, 2019, 12:05:43 PM »

Just caught a replay.
GSW got good minutes out of their bench.
Bench scored 1st half and sucked up useful minutes 3Q.
especially useful sicne Scurry & Dray had minor foul trouble.

Weird lull with 5 to 3 left in 4Q, where no one could score.
Klay had the dagger 3.
Iggy hit timely 3's.
Looney was effective.

CP3 showed up.
Harden was somewhat quiet.
Two errors down the stretch -- off. foul for shoving Dray with a little over 2 mins left; dribbled off his foot down 6 with 16 secs or so left.
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« Reply #5665 on: May 11, 2019, 12:21:07 PM »

During that lull, my son (who lives in SF) and I sent each other simultaneous "what the hell is going on?" texts. Each team was getting wide open shots, even lay-ups, nobody was making them. But nobody was getting back on or playing much D either. I assume everyone was exhausted.
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« Reply #5666 on: May 11, 2019, 01:48:31 PM »

If I needed money I'd never bet on a James Harden team.

I think that's not entirely fair.   If you had said D'antoni team i'd agree.

In defense of the beard he played 39 minutes and looked exhausted in the last five minutes.

Curry played 34 minutes.  And ironically for all the talk of the weak W's bench, their bench out scored Houston's 33-17.


Houston had no scorers on their bench.  So the starters had to carry too much of the load.
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« Reply #5667 on: May 11, 2019, 02:15:00 PM »

If Durant leaves, I think Houston has to run it back with some better bench wings. If Durant comes back, I have no idea how Houston recovers from this.

If Boogie and Durant are gone for at least the first 2-4 games of the next round, do either Denver or Portland cause any concern for the Warriors? Which one is more worrisome?

On a related note, who do you think Milwaukee would prefer to face?
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« Reply #5668 on: May 11, 2019, 05:31:45 PM »

Houston had no scorers on their bench.  So the starters had to carry too much of the load.

Not true ...
AuRevoir and Green Gerald are both scorers. Just erratic ones.
Faried is very much a scorer but barely played in the GS series (just 5 mins in G2).  House only played G1 & 5 mins in G2.

D'ant went with Shump and Nene over House and Faried.  Preferred defenders and guys with playoff experience.

For the most part Rivers and Shump played better than Green, but all 3 were up and down with good and bad games in the GSW series.
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« Reply #5669 on: May 11, 2019, 08:36:55 PM »

Lakers land on former Pacers coach Frank Vogel as next head coach
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May 11th 2019 7:39PM
After multiple twists and turns, the Los Angeles Lakers coaching search has reportedly reached what the team hopes to be its final destination.

Former Indiana Pacers head coach Frank Vogel has reached an agreement with the Lakers to be the team’s next head coach, ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski reports. The news was later confirmed by the Los Angeles Times’ Tania Ganguli.


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 Frank Vogel has agreed to a deal to become the next coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell ESPN.

Vogel will bring eight years of head coaching experience and a 304-291 record with him to the Staples Center, where expectations remain undoubtedly high as fans grow increasingly desperate to see the winning promised by the arrival of LeBron James last year.

Also headed to the Lakers coaching staff is former Milwaukee Bucks coach Jason Kidd, whose addition was reportedly a point of contention in negotiations with the team’s previous pick for their head coaching job, Tyronn Lue.


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 Jason Kidd has agreed to join Vogel's Lakers staff in a prominent assistant coaching role, league sources tell ESPN.

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Frank Vogel has agreed to a deal to become the next coach of the Los Angeles Lakers, league sources tell ESPN.

Another point of contention was reportedly contract length. Lue wanted a five-year deal, the Lakers insisted on three. Vogel’s contract length: three years, according to Wojnarowski.
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