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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6105 on: June 01, 2019, 02:57:14 PM »

59/42/74% for Hachimura this year.

He got college numbers. But he's almost certainly too one dimensional to stay on an NBA court right now for long enough to get those numbers- he hasn't shown he can defend or pass worth a lick, and he will probably struggle out of the gate scoring against NBA-level athleticism. Will he develop enough over time to become a rotation player in a couple of years? I wouldn't waste a top-10 pick to find out.

I think he's a good value pick in the 20s.

I've seen him play in person, btw.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6106 on: June 01, 2019, 03:13:09 PM »

59/42/74% for Hachimura this year.

He got college numbers. But he's almost certainly too one dimensional to stay on an NBA court right now for long enough to get those numbers- he hasn't shown he can defend or pass worth a lick, and he will probably struggle out of the gate scoring against NBA-level athleticism. Will he develop enough over time to become a rotation player in a couple of years? I wouldn't waste a top-10 pick to find out.

I think he's a good value pick in the 20s.

I've seen him play in person, btw.

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« Reply #6107 on: June 01, 2019, 10:43:12 PM »

59/42/74% for Hachimura this year.

He got college numbers. But he's almost certainly too one dimensional to stay on an NBA court right now for long enough to get those numbers- he hasn't shown he can defend or pass worth a lick, and he will probably struggle out of the gate scoring against NBA-level athleticism. Will he develop enough over time to become a rotation player in a couple of years? I wouldn't waste a top-10 pick to find out.

I think he's a good value pick in the 20s.

I've seen him play in person, btw.

You need to stop.  Such inaccuracy. Mo'n Dieu'
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« Reply #6108 on: June 01, 2019, 11:10:18 PM »

Too late. He’s smitten.
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« Reply #6109 on: June 02, 2019, 02:17:25 AM »


You need to stop.  Such inaccuracy. Mo'n Dieu'

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6110 on: June 02, 2019, 09:46:04 AM »

59/42/74% for Hachimura this year.

He got college numbers.
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But he's almost certainly too one dimensional to stay on an NBA court right now for long enough to get those numbers-
  20 ppg as a rookie?  59% FG?  Yeah - good call
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he hasn't shown he can defend or pass worth a lick
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and he will probably struggle out of the gate scoring against NBA-level athleticism
not sure what struggle to score means in your mind - but sure -
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Will he develop enough over time to become a rotation player in a couple of years? I wouldn't waste a top-10 pick to find out.
we have the 3.  if yiou are speaking for teams 8-10, they thank you for your input
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I think he's a good value pick in the 20s.
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I've seen him play in person, btw.
Money well spent, i am sure.  Cool team.
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« Reply #6111 on: June 02, 2019, 12:17:35 PM »

Well, no....

Hachimura and Fernando early on were that well thought of

And many analysts feel much can happen between about 6 and 24 - its all very even.

read:  nobody knows who will go where

So.....

what do we think about the hypothetical of dealing #3 for 8 and 10?

No serious site had Hachimura and Fernando that high. Not one. Only nbadraft.net, which is not worth taking seriously. And they had this during the tournament, after both players showed themselves to be far too limited for such consideration.

I prefer RJ to what will be at 8/10 (setting aside that such a deal is an inconvenience cap wise and makes it more difficult to sign two max players). In all likelihood, there are going to be two players available at that point whose joint value exceed that of RJ but in a draft like this it's awfully risky to know who those players are. In hindsight, it's going to be really, really easy to say Player X and Player Y were available, I told you we should have traded down! But in actuality, it's difficult to know those players are, especially the farther you go down the lottery (ie it was easier for Atlanta since they only went down two picks).

Plus I really like RJ.

Well. I am sure we will get to some type of informal polling here

At 3 I would take ________ or I would trade down.

Post draft - At 8 and 10, given who was available at the time, I would have taken ____________

Sort of like the Jordan Hill year.  And last year.  And when we drafted Frankie.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6112 on: June 02, 2019, 03:44:15 PM »

No wager tonight

Warriors getting 2 points. 

For series the odds are now down to Warriors -140, Raptors +120
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« Reply #6113 on: June 02, 2019, 09:06:42 PM »

Jerebko sucks ass
Cousins hurts more than he helps
Curry predictably comes up lame in another finals
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« Reply #6114 on: June 02, 2019, 10:50:29 PM »

Man Toronto blew a golden opportunity tonight.  Warriors were playing the back of the bench.
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« Reply #6115 on: June 03, 2019, 12:15:16 AM »

No KD, No Klay?  No bueno.
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« Reply #6116 on: June 03, 2019, 12:38:25 AM »

I think Cousins deserves some credit.
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« Reply #6117 on: June 03, 2019, 12:07:33 PM »

Man Toronto blew a golden opportunity tonight.  Warriors were playing the back of the bench.

Shows that it is the system

And that Jackson had the right coach in mind.

Curry FIFTH in assists among the starters last night.  Pretty cool.
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« Reply #6118 on: June 03, 2019, 12:08:31 PM »

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6119 on: June 03, 2019, 01:37:25 PM »

59/42/74% for Hachimura this year.

He got college numbers.
  What?
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But he's almost certainly too one dimensional to stay on an NBA court right now for long enough to get those numbers-
  20 ppg as a rookie?  59% FG?  Yeah - good call
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he hasn't shown he can defend or pass worth a lick
  idiotic
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and he will probably struggle out of the gate scoring against NBA-level athleticism
not sure what struggle to score means in your mind - but sure -
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Will he develop enough over time to become a rotation player in a couple of years? I wouldn't waste a top-10 pick to find out.
we have the 3.  if yiou are speaking for teams 8-10, they thank you for your input
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I think he's a good value pick in the 20s.
  minimally

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I've seen him play in person, btw.
Money well spent, i am sure.  Cool team.

Appreciate the line-by-line breakdown. He's a fun player, it would be great to be wrong. But I'm not touching him with a top-10 pick, and, as Yankguy said, he's not the first Zag I take.
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