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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[kiidcarter8]

Rational thought says that we go hard after DAVIS if we strike out early in free agency and he is still available.

[facilitatorn]

I’m counting on Boston or LA out bidding us, with one gutting itself and turning NO into a rising power, a la Melo or Hershel Walker.

[carlos123]

We can build organically then. Don’t we have two first rounders next year?

We make our picks, get reasonable FA’s that enhance the program, maintain some space and keep building.

Good, and let NO fleece Boston!

Kyrie to the Nyets, LOL!!!

[kiidcarter8]

AINGE is on the clock!

[thebizneverloses]

Ainge is a pretty damn good GM. The Kyrie trade was worth it, even if he leaves, in no small part because it helped avoid a messy situation with Isaiah Thomas.

Knicks should not trade for Davis if they don't get an all-star in free agency.

[carlos123]

I wasn’t trying to put Danny down. Agree he’s a damn good GM.

I just don’t think I want Kyrie on my team.

[Kam]

If Carmelo wants to be here -  good.
If Carmelo wants to go elsewhere - also good.

Paraphrasin.


Meaning if Phil could resign him to a team-friendly deal then that was a path to winning
And if Phil couldn't resign him then the team resources (money, years, playing time) would go elsewhere

Similarly..

IF we land 2 big free agent fish and leapfrog the talent on our roster to 50-60 win plateau then great
and if we land no mega stars we can still use the team resources to slow build our squad with young guys


Agree with BIZ.... landing just ONE superstar would be pointless if we didn't have a clear path to a 2nd.

[kiidcarter8]

Always a clear path.  Always good options with $$

But there are 29 other teams.  Gotta WORK

Do you like who is doing the work?  becomes the key question.  I think there may be key voices either not speaking up or simply not being heard.

[carlos123]

IF we land 2 big free agent fish and leapfrog the talent on our roster to 50-60 win plateau then great
and if we land no mega stars we can still use the team resources to slow build our squad with young guys


Agree with BIZ.... landing just ONE superstar would be pointless if we didn't have a clear path to a 2nd.

Well ... I know it ain’t gonna happen, but I wouldn’t mind having KL as my only superstar. Who are the other superstars in Toronto? Lowry, Gasol, Siakam? Very good players, yes, just not superstars.

[thebizneverloses]

Raptors are not an easy model to follow. They play a 7-man rotation, and every single player goes hard and smart both ways. It's in some ways easier for the Knicks to recreate a super-team than that kind of coherence and balance.

Also, why in God's name would Kawhi come to NY? Either he goes home to SoCal or, more likely, he signs a short-term deal with Toronto to run it back again.

Durant is different - he doesn't have his own team and he seems to crave it.

[FWK00]

Raptors are not an easy model to follow. They play a 7-man rotation, and every single player goes hard and smart both ways. It's in some ways easier for the Knicks to recreate a super-team than that kind of coherence and balance.

Also, why in God's name would Kawhi come to NY? Either he goes home to SoCal or, more likely, he signs a short-term deal with Toronto to run it back again.

Durant is different - he doesn't have his own team and he seems to crave it.

Durant wants to do what sCurry never had an opportunity to do - play and win in NY. Its a subliminal trumping of Curry's accomplishments in GS.

[carlos123]

Also, why in God's name would Kawhi come to NY? Either he goes home to SoCal or, more likely, he signs a short-term deal with Toronto to run it back again.

I know it ain’t gonna happen. First thing I said. My point was that you don’t need two superstars to have a super team.

Now, if Durant returns and they somehow end up winning, then he doesn’t have anything to prove anymore. More likely he moves in that situation.

[FWK00]

Also, why in God's name would Kawhi come to NY? Either he goes home to SoCal or, more likely, he signs a short-term deal with Toronto to run it back again.

I know it ain’t gonna happen. First thing I said. My point was that you don’t need two superstars to have a super team.

Now, if Durant returns and they somehow end up winning, then he doesn’t have anything to prove anymore. More likely he moves in that situation.

Agreed. Chemistry and team balance are more important.

[Kam]

Also, why in God's name would Kawhi come to NY? Either he goes home to SoCal or, more likely, he signs a short-term deal with Toronto to run it back again.

I know it ain’t gonna happen. First thing I said. My point was that you don’t need two superstars to have a super team.

Now, if Durant returns and they somehow end up winning, then he doesn’t have anything to prove anymore. More likely he moves in that situation.

Agreed. Chemistry and team balance are more important.

My high school alum Max has a formula.

Superstars are 5 star players
ALL stars are 4 star players
Starters are 3 star players
Rotation guys are 2 stars
etc

Kawhi is a 5 star player with championship pedigree
But Siakam is just about a 4 star player (will be one next year)
Lowry and Gasol have been and aren't too far over their past form. 3.5 stars each.
Danny Green is a 3 star guy but he has championship pedigree

That means their average starter is a 3.8

The bench has Serge Ibaka who has played in a finals so he is just about a 3 star guy

They're laden with talent.

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Milwaukee by the way...

GIannis  ... not quite 5 stars.  Still some things missing in his repertoire.  Clutch threes.  Experience.
Middleton ... 4 stars... but you could debate Siakam or Middleton as the better 2nd option
Bledsoe   3 stars    too bad Brogdon was hurt
Lopez   3.25 stars   Milwaukee should use him more in the post and not exclusively as a three pt guy
Mirotic 3 stars

[Kam]

i bet my buddy 20 bucks.
he says Golden State is going to win in 7
i bet the raptors.
this is after the raptors took a commanding 3-1 lead.
I have three chances to win, he has to win all three games.

Did i make a good bet?