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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6195 on: June 11, 2019, 12:04:29 PM »

Well.....

what are the positives of the deal?

That's a great question.  What are they?

At the time, consensus here seemed to be it was a great deal if we got KD, a bad one if we didn't.  So with the injury to KD, seems relevant to bring the deal up again.

To me:  looked stupid at the time, continued to look stupid after Antonio Davis talks, looks stupid now. 

If you see positives, let alone a net positive, lets hear them.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6196 on: June 11, 2019, 12:05:33 PM »

sucks about Durant.

at his age he may never be the same player again.

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« Reply #6197 on: June 11, 2019, 12:33:05 PM »

I am with you on the PG.

So, you now see Knox as a 4?  Trade bait?  6th man?
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« Reply #6198 on: June 11, 2019, 12:40:07 PM »

Build around RJ/DSJ/Mitch/Knox et al. Re-sign Vonleh and Mudiay,  see if DeAndre comes back on a one-year deal and if you cannot get some other professionals so the team is at least a bit more competitive. There are kids worth watching, team will have cap space for at least a max, plus a returning Durant, a lottery pick in a good draft and a bevy of recent lottery picks.

Why did the Knicks trade Kristaps Porzingis for bupkis again?

As if the Antonio Davis trade talks haven't already made the stupidity of that move clear.

We offered KP
NO wasnt interested
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Circumstances Change
« Reply #6199 on: June 11, 2019, 12:44:40 PM »

You have to roll with it.


Knicks offseason plan

Sign max contracts for KD and a friend
Draft ZION

Sign no max contracts
Draft RJ Barrett
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6200 on: June 11, 2019, 12:46:06 PM »

Well.....

what are the positives of the deal?

That's a great question.  What are they?

At the time, consensus here seemed to be it was a great deal if we got KD, a bad one if we didn't.  So with the injury to KD, seems relevant to bring the deal up again.

To me:  looked stupid at the time, continued to look stupid after Antonio Davis talks, looks stupid now. 

If you see positives, let alone a net positive, lets hear them.

So you like a team with KP as the main cog?
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KP is old news
« Reply #6201 on: June 11, 2019, 12:48:23 PM »

Why mention him.  He was moved for multiple reasons.  Not the lease of which, he/janis is a douchebag.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6202 on: June 11, 2019, 12:51:14 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

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« Reply #6203 on: June 11, 2019, 12:52:12 PM »

Knicks will draft Barrett.   Unless Memphis does... then Knicks will draft Morant.


Everyone here will talk up Culver, Hunter, Garland, and others.


Barrett will have a very long career.


One of the guys drafted after him MIGHT have a better career


The forumite who mentions these other guys the most will get to pound his chest the most in the ensuing years.



It's easy to be contrarian.


But for YEARS people have been looking at RJ as the #1 guy,


Now on the basis of one NCAA tournament opinions are changing?


OKRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrr......     ::)


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« Reply #6204 on: June 11, 2019, 12:55:52 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Well he is right to be worried.   Perry/Mills career was staked on the KP trade.   
Now they may make a panic-move to justify the trade.


That IS A BIG concern because they're expected to do something. 

Our leverage is gone.

Everything sucks today.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6205 on: June 11, 2019, 02:38:20 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Well he is right to be worried.   Perry/Mills career was staked on the KP trade.   
Now they may make a panic-move to justify the trade.


That IS A BIG concern because they're expected to do something. 

Our leverage is gone.

Everything sucks today.
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2 seasons from now, we could get as free agents both Davis (assuming he does not extend if traded-recent word is NYC and LA are his preferred destinations) and Durant (assuming he takes the GS option).


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« Reply #6206 on: June 11, 2019, 03:42:33 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Well he is right to be worried.   Perry/Mills career was staked on the KP trade.   
Now they may make a panic-move to justify the trade.


That IS A BIG concern because they're expected to do something. 

Our leverage is gone.

Everything sucks today.
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2 seasons from now, we could get as free agents both Davis (assuming he does not extend if traded-recent word is NYC and LA are his preferred destinations) and Durant (assuming he takes the GS option).

OK.   That is all well and good.  But then we wouldn't have had to trade KP to dump our bad contracts since two seasons hence they would have just slid off the cap naturally.  Thereby allowing us to trade KP for more picks or more genuine players and less about dumping deals.

And also 2 seasons from now i think we are still paying Noah the extra 6 million from his stretch which in hindsight was also unnecessary.

To be a knick fan is to suffer.
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« Reply #6207 on: June 11, 2019, 04:05:33 PM »

Perry Mills will trade the #3 pick, a future Dallas first round pick, as well as our most recent picks Knox, Ntilikina, and Robinson in a bid for AD.

Maybe more.   The entire farm probably.

Then waste another year or two and wait out Giannis.   
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6208 on: June 11, 2019, 04:14:19 PM »

Wasn't one of Davis' issues in New Orleans the idea that his team wasn't doing much to improve itself (an issue I thought he was wrong about it, since I think they have decent enough talent)?  Now that Zion has fallen into their laps, isn't it possible that he would no longer want out?  Or did he burn his bridges?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6209 on: June 11, 2019, 04:19:25 PM »

Well.....

what are the positives of the deal?

That's a great question.  What are they?

At the time, consensus here seemed to be it was a great deal if we got KD, a bad one if we didn't.  So with the injury to KD, seems relevant to bring the deal up again.

To me:  looked stupid at the time, continued to look stupid after Antonio Davis talks, looks stupid now. 

If you see positives, let alone a net positive, lets hear them.

So you like a team with KP as the main cog?

One of.  Sure.  Just like Dallas does now, after celebrating for getting an All-Star for almost nothing.
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