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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6210 on: June 11, 2019, 04:20:16 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Beyond idiocy for a team to trade a young franchise-defining star for cap space.  Beyond. 

Now the guy they were supposedly clearing cap space isn't coming/won't ever be the same player.

No more "needs" be said.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6211 on: June 11, 2019, 04:22:17 PM »

Build around RJ/DSJ/Mitch/Knox et al. Re-sign Vonleh and Mudiay,  see if DeAndre comes back on a one-year deal and if you cannot get some other professionals so the team is at least a bit more competitive. There are kids worth watching, team will have cap space for at least a max, plus a returning Durant, a lottery pick in a good draft and a bevy of recent lottery picks.

Why did the Knicks trade Kristaps Porzingis for bupkis again?

As if the Antonio Davis trade talks haven't already made the stupidity of that move clear.

We offered KP
NO wasnt interested

Now they would be.

Circumstances change.
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« Reply #6212 on: June 11, 2019, 04:26:59 PM »

Why mention him.  He was moved for multiple reasons.  Not the lease of which, he/janis is a douchebag.

You aren't a team with strong enough management and tradition to handle a moody star and his entourage (though funny how we didn't hear about that until after the trade) then trade him.

But trade him for pocket lint and a prayer? 

That's uniquely Knicks.  The worst franchise in sports.
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Re: KP is old news
« Reply #6213 on: June 11, 2019, 04:36:04 PM »

Why mention him.  He was moved for multiple reasons.  Not the lease of which, he/janis is a douchebag.

You aren't a team with strong enough management and tradition to handle a moody star and his entourage (though funny how we didn't hear about that until after the trade) then trade him.

But trade him for pocket lint and a prayer? 

That's uniquely Knicks.  The worst franchise in sports.
Also such discussions proceed with the Washington Redskins. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6214 on: June 11, 2019, 05:28:04 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Well he is right to be worried.   Perry/Mills career was staked on the KP trade.   
Now they may make a panic-move to justify the trade.


That IS A BIG concern because they're expected to do something. 

Our leverage is gone.

Everything sucks today.

The "everything sucks" feeling you are getting is due to Frank, KK and Smith, supposed building blocks.  If they were better, with all our cash and picks, no need to be queasy
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6215 on: June 11, 2019, 06:42:21 PM »

Not having to watch Kanter, Mudiay, or Timmy in Knicks colors again is already great progress.

I’m down with adding Barrett and watching the kids grow.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6216 on: June 11, 2019, 07:28:23 PM »

Yep.

Radio talk today of still signing KD long term and taking the down year as a means of getting the high pick in the strong 2020 draft


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« Reply #6217 on: June 11, 2019, 11:10:10 PM »

Yep.

Radio talk today of still signing KD long term and taking the down year as a means of getting the high pick in the strong 2020 draft

Not this shit again.
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« Reply #6218 on: June 11, 2019, 11:14:40 PM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Beyond idiocy for a team to trade a young franchise-defining star for cap space.  Beyond. 

Now the guy they were supposedly clearing cap space isn't coming/won't ever be the same player.

No more "needs" be said.

Loud wrong.
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« Reply #6219 on: June 11, 2019, 11:15:58 PM »

Yep.

Radio talk today of still signing KD long term and taking the down year as a means of getting the high pick in the strong 2020 draft

Not this shit again.

Agree,  i thought we were done with tanking.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6220 on: June 11, 2019, 11:20:28 PM »

lol, he could be 32 years old, coming off a torn achilles (do we know this yet?), entering the first playing year of a long term max contract, lol, lol, lol...sigh.

We may have really blown it with the Latvian trade, or not.

But everything doesn't suck. We got space and picks and a couple good young ones and a bunch of young ones who suck. Opinions will vary greatly on which are which.

See what happens I guess. Dolan still owns the team so odds are lots of bad things, but we've started summers in a lot worse position than this.

*** Slight amendment to the above: we've never started a summer before with a coach as provenly awful as fuckwhale. Ring the bell. Send him to hell.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6221 on: June 11, 2019, 11:53:27 PM »

lol, he could be 32 years old, coming off a torn achilles (do we know this yet?), entering the first playing year of a long term max contract, lol, lol, lol...sigh.

We may have really blown it with the Latvian trade, or not.

But everything doesn't suck. We got space and picks and a couple good young ones and a bunch of young ones who suck. Opinions will vary greatly on which are which.

See what happens I guess. Dolan still owns the team so odds are lots of bad things, but we've started summers in a lot worse position than this.

*** Slight amendment to the above: we've never started a summer before with a coach as provenly awful as fuckwhale. Ring the bell. Send him to hell.

Yeah, the idea that just next year would be a tank year vastly underestimates Durant's recovery runway which may be not just a year to walk but two or three to actually be a functional player.

With all due respect to KD's optimism, no thanks.

But, like you, I think we're in very good shape to improve dramatically.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6222 on: June 12, 2019, 12:01:17 AM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Beyond idiocy for a team to trade a young franchise-defining star for cap space.  Beyond. 

Now the guy they were supposedly clearing cap space isn't coming/won't ever be the same player.

No more "needs" be said.

Loud wrong.

Yeah - Needs often lets the media lead him by the nose.

Knicks management knew KD was just one good option.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6223 on: June 12, 2019, 12:20:30 AM »

Needs has a Uni-crush.

Beyond idiocy for a team to trade a young franchise-defining star for cap space.  Beyond. 

Now the guy they were supposedly clearing cap space isn't coming/won't ever be the same player.

No more "needs" be said.

Loud wrong.

Yeah - Needs often lets the media lead him by the nose.

Knicks management knew KD was just one good option.

So who is another good option kiidcarter8?  Who is coming to New York to play with...

What Knicks Management knows is that they need to sign someone this summer otherwise trading their unicorn for all that cap space looks fucking stupid. Sounds to me like they will be desperate, and everyone will know it.   I guess Knick fans can console themselves with the fact that the team has never had a history of overpaying for mediocre talent...

But now the crew who said “If we don’t get KD this is a bad trade” is all about watching their young ones grow. So how would a 7’3” 23 year old all-star with game-changing skills fit into that building plan?  I know Dallas fans are excited.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6224 on: June 12, 2019, 01:00:12 AM »

"He'll never be the same"

No telling

Achilles tendon can actually come back stronger.

Is there any NBA player that has come back the same after an Achilles injury? Don't believe so.
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