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2 (66.7%)

Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[lesterluv]

considered—where do we sign!

[kiidcarter8]

Celts update

1 - Kyrie to officially opt out

2 - Agent Rich Paul warns that if Celts deal for AD dont blame him if Antonio leaves after one year

3 - Brad Stevens still overrated

[kiidcarter8]

From the REAL DUMB department

Mock Draft Special had analysis of Lakers - stating Lakers would be nowhere near competitive if they make no deal and just add D Hunter

1 - Likely they dont take Hunter

2 - Again the loss of Ball last year is discounted.  Lakers were in decent position before Lonzo - and then Lebron went down to injury.  Its an excellent roster

3 - Press still downplays the mistake Lakers made when the let Randle go

[bodiddley]

New deal to consider
Kevin Knox, a future 1 and 2 2s for this year's #5 overall.

I consider that awful ...

[kiidcarter8]

Why?  Because Knox is a known commodity and the 5 pick is not?

We could pair Barrett with Reddish.

I'd use the Dallas 2021 pick.

[bodiddley]

1) Don't think we're in a position to give up multiple assets for a rook.
2) I like Knox.
3) We need to develop some players at some point. 
Rolling things back to rooks doesn't advance much.
We lost KZ, Franc is seen by mgt as iffy, and then letting Knox go -- just seems not the right approach.

4) if I were to do such a trade, I think I'd prefer a sure thing NBA starter like Hunter rather than a risk-reward type like Reddish

It sounds like an interesting draft.
More PG's than I was aware of.
But the guy who played 5 games in college and got hurt, is tough to evaluate.

[thebizneverloses]

If we're going full rebuild, as Bo says, a guy like Ed Davis (or Demarre Carroll) makes sense.

I'd see what first rounder the Miami Heat would give for Ryan Anderson. (Taking on Allan Crabbe's contract fetched two first rounders, of course with Taurean Prince headed the other way as well).

I'd try to see if Charlotte would give us Marvin Williams (expiring) for basically free, since they're going to have major cap/tax problems if they re-sign Kemba and Marvin fits well next to DeAndre. Or maybe Marvin & MKG & the 12th pick this year for Iso Zo and Dotson and their own second rounder back.
 
I'd take Evan Turner or Meyers Leonard from Portland without sending anything more than a 2nd rounder back, if they want out of the tax.

Those are players that can still actually contribute. Another option is to just seek dead cap weight in exchange for first rounders.

Biyombo is a large expiring, but you definitely need to take a 1st to take him on. Same thing with Mozgov over in Orlando.

The Wizards will have issues if they don't kick start the rebuild - how desperate are they to rid themselves of Ian Mahinmi?

From OKC - would they give their first rounder for us to take Andre Roberson and Patrick Patterson?

Memphis probably won't give up anything interesting for Chandler Parsons.

There is an irony in having dumped Courtney Lee just to go back into the market and take on contracts just like his. Irrespective of whether Durant signs, if we don't get an all-star talent for next season, I want to be the Hawks for a year. Trust that some of the youth, including RJ, will take major steps forward. There's lots to like.

[thebizneverloses]

For the record, I think the Knicks are the team best suited to wait a year for Durant. Golden State will be tempted, but the tax implications are so severe, it's going to be difficult for them.

Lakers cannot wait.

Clippers have too much potential and expectations, but they're so well managed nowadays, who knows when they will successfully zig when everyone expects them to zag.

Brooklyn looms as a risk, but they just traded their pick. I think they're more likely to sign one all-star (Tobias or Kyrie) and then bring back a lot of their contributors and try to jump Indiana and perhaps Boston into a top-four seed.

I think it comes down to NY and G-State.

[bodiddley]

I'd be up for taking on some ending/short-term contracts.
I like Meyers and DMC, and Davis.
And maybe we can pick up assets on a salary dump a la the Crabbe walk.

Having a lot of cap space affords opportunities to add assets and be creative.

[kiidcarter8]

"I think it comes down to NY and G State"

Let's not forget - KD could opt in to his 31 mil and go from there - giving him many more options (Lakers, Celtics, etc) for 2020-21.

[Kam]

I'm always amazed when a player like Durant (owed $30M next year) or really any player (average salary $8M) has a serious leg injury and just walks to the lockerroom holding the shoulders of teammates. 

Can't believe they don't use a cart as in football, or a wheelchair or stretcher.  Limping to the locker room can't help the injury any.  A billion dollar sports industry, hi-tech sports medicine, trainers and med personnel, and they have their players hobble off like I'd do on the playground.  Bizarre.

This has baffled me for years . . .

You don't want you fans to see that.

It happens rarely in the NFL.    They limp to the sidelines also.   

Soccer players are all faking their injuries for calls.  THey get carried off then someone sprays water on them.  And they're fine!

[kiidcarter8]

So no real injuries in soccer.  Got it.

[bodiddley]

I want whatever is best for the player.
Why was KD walking on a torn Achilles?
Get weight off the injured body part immediately.

And KD limped all the way through the bowels of the stadium to the lockerroom as well.
Dumb stuff, imo.

[Kam]

New deal to consider

Kevin Knox, a future 1 and 2 2s for this year's #5 overall.

Worst forum fantasy trade offer ever.

Have you seen this team?  A future 1 will probably be top 5 anyway.  So you just wanna dump Knox and 2 2s.

[Kam]

So no real injuries in soccer.  Got it.

Don't act like you've never see a guy taken off on a stretcher and after a few minutes on the sideline he is back running again.