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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6375 on: June 16, 2019, 03:45:09 PM »

Walker has stated he would take LESS than max to stay in Charlotte.

D'angelo might be a Knick after all.  Your dream come true.

I guess.  With RANDLE?  Let's go!!
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6376 on: June 16, 2019, 03:47:27 PM »

Glad Ainge sat out the AD auction.
 

A wise man you are, though not too sure Danny sat out entirely
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« Reply #6377 on: June 16, 2019, 03:51:55 PM »

Kemba won't quite be making $40m. Plan for 30, but with five years and higher raises than other teams can offer.

If CHA only offers $30M, Kemba could get 4/$140M elsewhere.
Instead of a 5th year guarantee from CHA, KW could go to a winning team.  Play with LeBJ & AD.  Or the Clippers.  Magic?

CHA is on the treadmill of mediocrity.  They need to either come across with a lot of money, or Kemba could well fly.

Sounding VERY MUCH like Walker is staying in Charlotte.  I don't think he misses the northeast one bitty bit.
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Malcolm Brogdon RFA should be our main target now
« Reply #6378 on: June 16, 2019, 10:36:38 PM »

Make Brogdon an offer MIL can't match.   
He is only 26.
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon RFA should be our main target now
« Reply #6379 on: June 16, 2019, 11:06:02 PM »

Make Brogdon an offer MIL can't match.   
He is only 26.

Yes, that makes DSJ expendable.
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Re: Malcolm Brogdon RFA should be our main target now
« Reply #6380 on: June 17, 2019, 01:34:16 AM »

Make Brogdon an offer MIL can't match.   
He is only 26.

Love Brogdon but is there an offer Knicks would make which Milwaukee wouldn't match?

Certainly I'd offer a four year deal starting at $18m per. Presuming Middleton gets near the max, and Lopez will get an offer near $10m per, that's going to be painful for Milwaukee to match.

The good thing about Brogdon is that he's an excellent fit next to RJ, and since he can play both guard positions you don't need to trade DSJ right away (or at all, even). You can see how they all fit together.

I prefer Brogdon at 18 to D'Angelo at 25, even though I doubt Brogdon will ever be a starter. I just think I'd roll the dice that RJ can be the primary creator that Brogdon needs to play beside.

All that said, if D'Angelo comes over and we trade DSJ for some future asset, I'll be fine with that as well.

Not sure about Randle's fit next to Mitch. I think we need a PF who can shoot, even if Mitch can make up for Randle's defensive deficiencies and Randle would be a fun fit on a young team looking to run.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6381 on: June 17, 2019, 02:32:01 AM »

The Frog is my favorite NBA player.
Versatile, smart, crafty, resourceful, plays hard.

Would love to poach him from MIL.
$18M sounds like a lot.
But to get a player who competes and can handle both G spots is important.  Too bad half our team is comprised of G's already.
Do I hear $20M anyone?
(actually I was thinking around $15M -- but you need to overpay to secure an RFA, and he's young and good).
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6382 on: June 17, 2019, 03:03:53 AM »

I haven't really looked at NY cap space carefully.
If we wanted to go the 3rd tier FA route, and could poach Brogdon (RFA).  Then I'd be intrigued with Rubio or Pa Bev.  We'd add passing and defense and smarts.  The Frog is a good 3-point shooter but a bit reluctant.  Rubio not a 3-man.  Pa Bev a 3&D PG.
Rubio 28; Pa Bev 30. 
If we kept DeAndretheGiant, we'd be signing a trio of defenders in FA.

Rubio/Pa Bev -- Jr. Smith/Franc
Brogdon    --  Trier
Barrett      --  Dotson
Knox         --  Vonleh
Mitch Rob  --  Deandre

Rubio probably makes more sense given age and durability.  But Knick fans would love PaBev careening around like mad.  Not sure how much either would cost.

We could roll out a defensive squad of Rubio-Frog-someone-Vonleh-Mitch at times.  A lot would depend on Knox/Barrett.  But having a solid/strong set of Guards would make life easier for our wing yute.  Gaining stability is important. 

Another lottery year would get us another good pick.  Or we make the playoffs in the weak East.  Both good.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6383 on: June 17, 2019, 04:44:50 AM »

I wouldn't mind being a young team and going with Mitch and Kornet at C.

We could skip DeAndretheGiant and add another vet on an inflated 1 year deal.   Ariza, Rude Gay, DeMarre, Wil.  All aging vets who play D, can cover both F spots, can mentor and fill in for Knox and Barrett, etc.
Other cheaper options: Deng, Decker, Dudley, Rich Holmes.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6384 on: June 17, 2019, 09:22:44 AM »

The Frog is my favorite NBA player.


That's beautiful
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6385 on: June 17, 2019, 10:49:22 AM »

Dray Green is 2nd  . . .
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« Reply #6386 on: June 17, 2019, 11:21:48 AM »

So if the forum here have resigned themselves to no superstar and a youth movement, then the question of a coach comes up again, no?

Fizdale did a lousy job bringing out the best of a young team. Can you disagree? And if not, what makes you think anything will change?
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« Reply #6387 on: June 17, 2019, 12:14:37 PM »

It seems that Frank is the only player with any potential beef about player management, which is a sign of one good thing accomplished by the staff. I’m willing to give Fizz a year to put his system in with more eye on results.

I’d be fine with Brogdon at 18 mil or under. Julius Randle would be a nice pickup to play PF. He got his threes up to 34% last year. Going after a cheaper vet also makes some sense.

For the Pels, draft Zion 1 and Clarke at 4. They’ll have the two best lob targets in the league just from the draft. Then sign Vucavic or possibly Boogie as plan B.

Vucavic
Zion
Ingram Clarke
Holiday Hart
Ball

This is a damn good passing team with scary perimeter D. Nic V provides some vertical spacing. I think that team could be trouble in the West this turbulent year and would likely outpace the Lakers.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6388 on: June 17, 2019, 12:54:29 PM »

Dray Green is 2nd  . . .

I KNOW who that is
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6389 on: June 17, 2019, 01:02:27 PM »


Fizdale did a lousy job bringing out the best of a young team.

OK.


Can you disagree?


With what; your opinion which you do not back up with any supporting facts?   Sure.

Not going to do your work for you.   Post why he should go and who should be hired.
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