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Who will win Game 5 of the NBA Finals?

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Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM


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Re: Why not us?
« Reply #6630 on: June 28, 2019, 01:31:24 PM »

Mavs, Celts, Suns, Bulls linked to Brogdon

Brogdon is one of my favourite players in the L. But I suspect that while the Bucks initially may have hoped to sign him for a deal starting at $15m a year, the aforementioned teams (aside from Boston) are going to submit escalating bids until he receives a deal an excess of $20m. I predict a crazy contract for a guy who doesn't create his own shot or protect the rim.

Do the Knicks want to go that high?

We are sitting at the table with the most chips.   Why not outbid?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6631 on: June 28, 2019, 01:42:45 PM »

Folks here think anytime we "overpay", even if getting OUR GUY, it is a mistake.

Seriously poor thinking in professional sports world.
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Re: Why not us?
« Reply #6632 on: June 28, 2019, 01:45:38 PM »

Mavs, Celts, Suns, Bulls linked to Brogdon

Brogdon is one of my favourite players in the L. But I suspect that while the Bucks initially may have hoped to sign him for a deal starting at $15m a year, the aforementioned teams (aside from Boston) are going to submit escalating bids until he receives a deal an excess of $20m. I predict a crazy contract for a guy who doesn't create his own shot or protect the rim.

Do the Knicks want to go that high?

We are sitting at the table with the most chips.   Why not outbid?

Because the point isn't, as Kid suggests, to get the best player. It's to build the best team. And you generally can't do that with bad contracts.

Look at how much trouble Houston is having simply because of the Chris Paul contract. A more reasonable deal would have been movable.

We shouldn't sign any deal which can't be moved. Brogdon, whom I love, makes sense at some number but not at any number. There are better uses of cap space than say $25m on Brogdon.
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Knicks decline team option for John Jenkins
« Reply #6633 on: June 28, 2019, 01:46:37 PM »

Jenkins played 22 games for the Knicks last season

Yesterday we chopped Kornet and said go away to Mudiay.
Today we Leeroyed John Jenkins.

Why don't they announce all these moves at the same time?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6634 on: June 28, 2019, 01:53:05 PM »

Houston will be making another strong run next year - and with a very effective Chris Paul.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6635 on: June 28, 2019, 01:56:49 PM »

For the record I am not in favor of giving Mr Brogdon anywhere near 25 mil.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6636 on: June 28, 2019, 02:02:07 PM »

I'd pay The Frog $18M.  And probably up to $20M.
He really is a heady player.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6637 on: June 28, 2019, 02:20:12 PM »

I would very much like to have him. There is some number that is right for us, and some number that is wrong. I don't do cap. But to think that we are in the same position as the other teams listed shows a real misunderstanding of how things work. There is a penalty. And the penalty is usually steep and lasting...
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6638 on: June 28, 2019, 03:05:06 PM »

Houston will be making another strong run next year - and with a very effective Chris Paul.

I certainly didn't suggest they weren't. But if Paul were earning $10m less, the Rockets would be in an even better position.

Good teams rarely have bad contracts. Houston is more-or-less an exception.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6639 on: June 28, 2019, 04:17:11 PM »

I'd pay The Frog $18M.  And probably up to $20M.
He really is a heady player.

Other teams can't afford to risk offering him $20mil and waiting 7 days while that money is tied up and they can't make offers to other free agents.   We can easily offer $20 mil and still go about our free agent business -- provided we stop chasing the KD&KI dream.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6640 on: June 28, 2019, 04:42:03 PM »

Houston will be making another strong run next year - and with a very effective Chris Paul.

I certainly didn't suggest they weren't. But if Paul were earning $10m less, the Rockets would be in an even better position.


Meh.

And how good if they didnt have Paul?  Was he signed over the cap to begin with?  If so you dont get that 40 mil dollar for dollar.
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« Reply #6641 on: June 28, 2019, 09:41:52 PM »


I will admit - remind, actually - to the forum that as much fun as I have grilling Stevens, he was on my list for Knicks coach before Boston even considered him.  So I know the guy has slkills. 

Danny needs to stock the cupboard for him.


I don't remember seeing any post about Brad Stevens before he was hired by Ainge, but I'm sure Danny has better memory and does remember. He OWES Chico big time!

Bank, I hope you're grateful too. Least you can do...
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Re: Danny OWES Chico
« Reply #6642 on: June 28, 2019, 10:51:36 PM »


I will admit - remind, actually - to the forum that as much fun as I have grilling Stevens, he was on my list for Knicks coach before Boston even considered him.  So I know the guy has slkills. 

Danny needs to stock the cupboard for him.


I don't remember seeing any post about Brad Stevens before he was hired by Ainge, but I'm sure Danny has better memory and does remember. He OWES Chico big time!

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Carlos I give thanks everyday.

I recall Chico claiming to having discovered Brad when Brad was coaching school ball at Hickory High, 20 years ago.

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6643 on: June 28, 2019, 11:07:47 PM »

If Celts sign Enes Kanter and feed him, you may have something.

They should avoid feeding him too much or he’ll become a 400 pound player waddling around the court like donald trump at a summit meeting. No one wants to see that and it doesn’t win anything.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6644 on: June 29, 2019, 02:02:28 AM »

I'd pay The Frog $18M.  And probably up to $20M.
He really is a heady player.

Other teams can't afford to risk offering him $20mil and waiting 7 days while that money is tied up and they can't make offers to other free agents.   We can easily offer $20 mil and still go about our free agent business -- provided we stop chasing the KD&KI dream.

Bulls and Suns are under the cap and can afford to wait the 48 hours (not seven days) just as much as the Knicks can.
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