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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[thebizneverloses]

Houston will be making another strong run next year - and with a very effective Chris Paul.

I certainly didn't suggest they weren't. But if Paul were earning $10m less, the Rockets would be in an even better position.

Meh.

And how good if they didnt have Paul?  Was he signed over the cap to begin with?  If so you dont get that 40 mil dollar for dollar.

They had Bird Rights, they didn't have to max him, since no other team would go as high.

But how good would they be? They'd be enough under the cap to make a run at Jimmy Butler. The Rockets would gladly take Butler in Paul's salary spot right now. They clearly regret the contract they gave to Paul, which they cannot give away. They want more than anything a two-way bully wing, noticing that most championship teams have one.

Chris Paul - great player, bad contract.

[carlos123]

If Celts sign Enes Kanter and feed him, you may have something.

They should avoid feeding him too much or he’ll become a 400 pound player waddling around the court like donald trump at a summit meeting. No one wants to see that and it doesn’t win anything.

Well, Donaldo, like Chico, claims to be winning all the time, 400 pounds and all. Feeding is never too much.

[bodiddley]

Besides Jr. Smith doesn't have great trade value as of now.  Try to build it up some before any deal.  Some teams would be interested in Smith and even franc, but how much would they give up?

I think he does.

The league is collectively down on New York's main second- and third-year players: Frank Ntilikina, Dennis Smith Jr., and Kevin Knox. (As I've said often on the Lowe Post, the league got too far down, too fast, on Smith -- even if I see all the warts. I'm interested to see how he develops. Knox has a very important sophomore year coming up.)

I didn't see a lot of the last 20+ games, and so didn't see Jr. Smith too much.  But nobody seemed too excited about his NY run, and he looked erratic in what I saw.

I'm looking forward to evaluating him this season.

Lowe also suggests Tangelo as a reasonable option; thinks a 1 year Boogie signing is sensible; but doesn't peep a word about Brogdon.
Eh; ugh; why not?

[thebizneverloses]

On the Knicks radar: Terry Rozier and Robin Lopez.

RoLo makes a lot more sense than Boogie, as he would likely be agreeable with playing fewer minutes. He also loved NYC. Might be worth a one year deal.

I think I prefer D-Lo, even at the $25 million max, to Rozier at, say, $16 million. If Rozier wants to come for something around half that, then you definitely sign him long term and let him battle DSJ for the starting role. But at $16 million you pretty much have to move DSJ.

[thebizneverloses]

Woj bomb: Reporting w/ @ramonashelburne: Kevin Durant and Kawhi Leonard have been discussing free agent scenarios that could include a future with them playing together. For now, there are two clear possibilities for them to sign into the same franchise: Clippers and Knicks."

(Nets can easily get into that discussion)

(I just can't see Knicks being preferable to Brooklyn or the Clippers for that particular configuration)

[bodiddley]

Durant said he only planned to meet with GSW, LAC, NYK, BKY.

Kawhi is from LA, right?
And Durant has been playing in Cali.

And Clips have some solid talent.
Have to think they'd be a favorite if Kawhi stuffs TOR.

So Durant the Crip might have a choice of joining Kyrie in BKY or Kawhi in LA.  Both likely offering max deals for a guy with a terrible injury and a full year of rehab ahead.  Kind of crazy. 
And Durant's fallback is a championship caliber GSW team.
Sorry, but Knix look 4th best . . .

[thebizneverloses]

Durant said he only planned to meet with GSW, LAC, NYK, BKY.

Kawhi is from LA, right?
And Durant has been playing in Cali.

And Clips have some solid talent.
Have to think they'd be a favorite if Kawhi stuffs TOR.

So Durant the Crip might have a choice of joining Kyrie in BKY or Kawhi in LA.  Both likely offering max deals for a guy with a terrible injury and a full year of rehab ahead.  Kind of crazy.

KD has had trouble staying healthy even before the achilles injury. He's missed a bunch of games every year. He clearly will be load managed upon his return.

Of course I'd still sign him to the max. It's a risk. With downside. But the upside is crazy, if he's 80% of his former self it's a good deal and if he's any better than that it's a great deal.

I think he goes to the Nets.

[bodiddley]

80% of his former self, when?

Y1 he rehabs - age 31 season.
Y2 he probably comes back a bit tentatively (think Hayward, Boogie, PG13) - age 32
Y3 KD might return to being 80% of KD, while aging out of his prime  - age 33 season
Y4 KD is aging and has had injuries - age 34
Y5 KD is kinda old - age 35

So let me guess:
Y1 age 31 KD = 0%
Y2 age 32 KD = 40% 1st half of season / 60% 2nd half
Y3 age 33 KD = 75% (if he stays healthy)
-- This year represents his best shot at returning to form --
Y4 age 34 KD = 60%
Y5 age 35 KD = Melo

If you think that's uncharitable, you can tack on an extra 5% each year if you're an optimist.

So:
Y1 is useless; Y5 likely fading significantly
Y2 likely a slow return plus half a good year.
So if you're lucky you might get 2 1/2 good years out of an aging, damaged KD.  At the low, low price of $40M or whatever.
Sure hope the Knix are 4th out of 4 on his list.

Can anyone see Kawhi coming to NYK to play with our sketchy yute for a year, while waiting for KD to rehab?  Would he really waste a year (or two) of his career, just to play in NY with Durant.

[kiidcarter8]

Ball is in KDs court.  No doubt at all that we take him if he wants to come.  Or that we also take whoever he wants as a running mate

[thebizneverloses]

Can't wait for KD! Come to NY!

(sorry Bo. I'm all in)

[bodiddley]

Promise me just 4 years . . .

[kiidcarter8]

Ohhh, Danny!

Listening on NBA radio..... both the Sixers and Celtics had better Kawhi packages but turned Spurs down.

Celts were keeping their assets for AD and had no clue Kyrie would leave.

Ouch.

[Kam]

The lance Thomas era (5 years) is mercifully done.

[Kam]

Ntilikina
Dotson

[Kam]

Done deal.