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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6735 on: July 01, 2019, 02:38:53 AM »

This the first time knix turned down a max FA no matter how old or injured? D has maybe finally outgrown his impetuous youth phase.
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« Reply #6736 on: July 01, 2019, 02:43:11 AM »

Massive fail.

Shit.

I Traded KP.

Gonna get fired.


Definitely gotta issue a statement.


Yo dudes


We fucked up yo.


SOrry.


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Re: The Squad
« Reply #6737 on: July 01, 2019, 02:48:51 AM »

Portis  /Robinson
Randle / Gibson
Knox  / Ignas
Barrett  / Dotson / Trier
DSJ / Ntilikina

Where we gonna play Reggie Bullock? 2yr 21 mil

May I suggest

Portis Mitch
Randle Gibson
Knox Bullock Ignas
Barrett Dotson Trier
DJS Frank

I’d still like to bring back Kornet. That leaves slots for more chips with our 17 mil. If we don’t have a deal we like, I’m good with Allen and taking the best guy out of camp. It preserves about 13 mil in cap space for in season deals or space toward next summer.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6738 on: July 01, 2019, 03:01:36 AM »


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Knicks' updated depth chart now:

PG: Dennis Smith Jr., Kadeem Allen (2-way)
Wings: RJ Barrett, Kevin Knox, Reggie Bullock, Allonzo Trier, Damyean Dotson, Frank Ntilikina, Ignas Brazdeikis, Kris Wilkes (2-way)
Bigs: Mitchell Robinson, Julius Randle, Bobby Portis, Taj Gibson
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6739 on: July 01, 2019, 03:22:28 AM »

If we want to unclump it further

PG: DJS, Allen
PG/SG: Frank, Trier
SG: Barrett, Dotson
SG/SF: Bullock, Wilkes
SF: Knox, Ignas
PF: Taj
PF/C: Randle, Portis
C: Robinson
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6740 on: July 01, 2019, 03:27:37 AM »

If we want to unclump it further

PG: DJS, Allen
PG/SG: Frank, Trier
SG: Barrett, Dotson
SG/SF: Bullock, Wilkes
SF: Knox, Ignas
PF: Taj
PF/C: Randle, Portis
C: Robinson

Team needs: point guard, small forward
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« Reply #6741 on: July 01, 2019, 03:35:23 AM »

Tier A:
Tier B:
Tier C: Randle
Tier D: Portis
Tier E: Bullock
Tier F: Gibson
Tier G:
Tier H:
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« Reply #6742 on: July 01, 2019, 03:37:23 AM »

Tier A:
Tier B: RJ Barrett
Tier C: Randle
Tier D: Portis
Tier E: Bullock, Bradzeikas
Tier F: Gibson
Tier G:
Tier H: Wilkes
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Phil Jackson / Mills/Perry era
« Reply #6743 on: July 01, 2019, 03:39:25 AM »

Set the team back... what... 5 years?

Or is it all Dolans fault?
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6744 on: July 01, 2019, 04:38:00 AM »

Who said here DeAndre didn’t mind the DNPs issued by our SMARMY PHONY “coach”?

Uh, DeAndretheGiant himself said so.
And just yesterday, DeAndre said he liked his time in NY, thought Fiz was a very good coach, likes the yute movement NYK is undergoing.  And he again repeated that the DNP's were weird, but it was a mutual decision and he agreed to it.

His options: mentor some pups on another crappy Knick team OR compete for the East title on a stacked Nets team with Kyrie and Durant . . .


We had no frontcourt other than Mitch & Knox. Knox doesn’t even count as he is still wafer thin.

Knox isn't thin.  Good frame.  He can fill out more and I assume he'll be more muscled as a 20 year old after an off-season of workouts.  Knox main issue of defense is awareness and reaction.  Not body.

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All three signings are productive inside/outside guys, the kind of bigs you need to make space for both Mitch and our drivers at guard and wing. If you don’t have a rotation of big men available, every night can get ugly.

So Randle did shoot nearly 200 3's and made 34% last year.
His first year shooting 3's.  Not bad.
When I saw NOPe, he was mostly a freight train, running through and over folks.
Terrifying on the break.  Prone to commit charges. 

I don't recall his 3's.  But more than 1/6th of his shots were 3's.  Expanding his game.  Just 24. 
Will be interesting to see his progress.
Still strikes me as a player not easy to build around.
And mostly a paint clogger.
But I didn't realize he stretched his game . . .
Mostly his range extends to 10 feet. 

There will be limited driving lanes when Mitch and Randle play together.  Negating R&B's nascent game.  Expect Knox to be shooting 3's then as well.  Unless we really let Randle become an outside shooter.  Could work.

Taj has taken 101 3's in his 10 year career.  but is trying to add a corner 3.

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I like our day 1 better than Brooklyn’s.

I like your extremely misplaced loyalty . . .
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« Reply #6745 on: July 01, 2019, 04:53:06 AM »

Does anybody like these Knick signings?

Randle at least young and fairly productive.
Of the type the Knix should be looking for.
But he got awfully pricey.

Can he really space the floor?  An issue since Mitch's range is 5 feet; and our prized rook likes to drive.  So the fit for Randle is questionable.  Ran-dle runs the floor well, so hopefully we push the pace with Jr. Smith.  But a lot hinges on if he can pop the 3 consistently.

Randle isn't much of a defender, can throw up awkward weird shots off post-ups.  Looks like a big overpay for not a great fit.  I also don't think Randle is a C at all.  Taj probably covers backup C duties.  I miss Kornet already.  He played scrappy interior D and has a nice outside shot. 

I would be fine with adding vet Taj (I suggested a 1 year deal for him -- the guy is 34) and a reasonably priced Portis -- a young guy struggling to be a starter.  Not sure if Portis is better than paying half price for Vonleh.  But I'm on board.  Some motor/focus issues for Portishead.  Hopefully he can develop consistency, because some nights he can take over. 

But add Taj and Portis and you skip Randle.

Seems like the only lesson Knix learned is to not give out 4 year deals, and try to stick to 2-yrs.


I need to catch up, but looks like for the same price Knix paid Randle, we could have had Brogdon. 
Why 3 PF's and no PG's?
Brogdon, Portis, Taj would have been a solid FA haul.

Looks like poorly thought-out scramble-mode went into effect.
I picture the post-FA hangover with PerryMills asking Allan Houston how we wound up with 3 new PF's.

I never mind the Bullocks.
He's a not terribly skilled guy who tries hard, makes mistakes, gives a good effort on both ends.  Is he our best 3 point shooter?  Our only one?  he'll look like a solid 2-way player some games and anon-entity others.  At least we added a defender.  I'll take Bullocks over subpar-Mario.  But expect mistakes form Bullocks on both ends. 
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6746 on: July 01, 2019, 05:09:17 AM »

If we want to unclump it further

PG: DJS, Allen
PG/SG: Frank, Trier
SG: Barrett, Dotson
SG/SF: Bullock, Wilkes
SF: Knox, Ignas
PF: Taj
PF/C: Randle, Portis
C: Robinson

Team needs: point guard, small forward

Gee, that's exactly what i said going into Free Agency . . .


Portis can play some SF.  Should challenge Knox for the starting SF role.  or simply take it away from Knox.

Knix will be a better team when we have a legit starting PG running the show.
Rubio, Brogdon, Pa Bev . . .
The final year of Dragic at $19M?
Is he healthy?
A mentor for Jr Smith . . .
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« Reply #6747 on: July 01, 2019, 05:52:46 AM »

So if we still had KZ, would it have been possible to excise Hardaway Jr and Courtly and take on Kyrie and Durant?
Cause my guess if we had KZ and the available cap space, we could have had Kyrie and KD . . .    Think about that!

KZ just signed 5/$158M with DAL.
For that haul, he likely could have been persuaded to be happy in NYC.


Around the NBA:

Utah added Mike Conley, Bojan Bogdanovic and Ed Davis.
Nicely done.
Conley - Mitchell - Bog - Favors (?) - Gobert
Exum   -  _____ - Ingles - Davis - Udoh (?)

Okay so they still need backup G's.
And have to hope Conley's body parts stay together.
But that's a real potent starting 5.
A good mix of shooting and D.  Yute and vets.
There should be some decent G's to fill out the roster with.


Robin Lopez joining Brook in MIL.
Losing The Frog will hurt them, but Greek-Middleguy-Lopez-Bled is potent.
Who starts at SG?  Connaughton is tough-minded. 


A young Rozier for less than half the cost of Kemba.
CHA had to roll the dice.  Rozier is expensive, but a 3 year deal to see what he can become.


GS ditched Iggy (and a 1st rounder) to add a pricey Tangelo.
Guess they had to take a chance with Klay out , KD leaving, and Iggy aging.
Tough.  Tangelo an interesting gamble.  Pricey, but he has ability and they have a system.  Really good op for Tangelo to expand his game.  Interesting


PHI: kept Tobias, lost Butler, added Horford (4 years and he's 33!) and nabbed Josh Rich.  Overall a good job.  But who takes the last shot?  Tobias, Josh, Embiid.
They also lost Redick, but Josh is a young two-way guy I really like.
Interesting.  Get Al's vet leadership.  get better defense swapping JRich and Redick.  I'm in ....
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6748 on: July 01, 2019, 08:14:13 AM »


I think you underestimate the Knicks team.  frankie is a unicorn.  RJ is going to be very, very good right out the gate.

Contrary to your opinion, MR is a project - a good one, but a project.  Lots of good, young talent abounds though.  We won't be playing to lose this year.

Frankie a unicorn? FWK, bro, At least half of our fanbase thinks the total opposite. I'm not sold at all btw, but hope I'm wrong.

As for Mitch, I don't think he's a top talent now, but has the most potential to become one of all of our young players. More so than RJ if you ask me.

You sure we won't be playing to lose? You see who we've signed? Maybe we get 10 or 15 more wins.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #6749 on: July 01, 2019, 08:23:29 AM »

If we want to unclump it further

PG: DJS, Allen
PG/SG: Frank, Trier
SG: Barrett, Dotson
SG/SF: Bullock, Wilkes
SF: Knox, Ignas
PF: Taj
PF/C: Randle, Portis
C: Robinson

Team needs: point guard, small forward

Don't worry, Kam. We've got Mudiay awaiting.
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