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bodiddley

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Lotta G's. No legit G starters.
« Reply #7365 on: August 11, 2019, 03:30:26 AM »

I'd like Trier to start for his 3-point shot and energy.  But he's not a good defender, is a bit of a black hole so vets might stand around annoyed.  Really his best role is as a bench instant offense type.

Smith Jr. -- I'd like him to start.  Push the pace.  Attack.  Take wide open 3's.  Can he run an offense?  He showed some chemistry with Mitch.  Can he help Randle and Morris get good looks?

Peyton -- he's really a seasoned backup PG.  A bit crafty and competitive.  Doesn't shoot well.  More pesky than good defense.

RJB -- I'd like him starting if he's ready for it.  But he's young with holes in his game.  And none of our PG's can hit 3's, so not a good pairing.

Ellington -- maybe he makes most sense being a 3&D guy next to Smith.  No upside and just takes minutes from yute.  But maybe he can steady things.  Too much of a jacker for my taste.  Can he settle down and just take good 3's and move the ball, instead of heaving crazy shots?

Franc -- our best G defender.  So I'd like him out there.  But he needs to offend as well.  Can Franc handle and set up and do enough scoring to keep defenses honest?

Datsun -- in danger of being the forgotten man in the Ron Baker Memorial 7th G role.  But he has two-way potential.  And I'd rather he gets minutes over Ellington.    maybe it comes down to who is a better long-term backup SG option -- Trier or Datsun.  Which probably depends on what your team needs.   

Lotta G's.
No legit G starters.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7366 on: August 11, 2019, 04:24:09 AM »

I think if no one else is hitting shots Ellington gets minutes, otherwise no so much.

Dot can learn from him & outplay him at the same time. Iíd bet Iggy & Trier can as well. RJís minutes should be determined primarily by his energy level and his D. Frank needs to dial in his finishing or his stroke or both while staying healthy. Iím not thinking about Reggie yet.

Looking at Timmyís early season numbers, and Mudiayís season long uptick in production and efficiency, itís tempting to project similar development for Payton with our staff and in our system, which would make him a fairly complete NBA point guard. DSJ + efficient shooting would be very dangerous. If Trier can defend PGís when initiators like Randle or RJ are available, running Trier at point could make sense. If Frank finds his magic feather... what would be weirder, that or RJ finding that point guard is his natural position?

Some of it will depend on synergy and combinations of intangibles.

And then thereís always health issues that crop up.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7367 on: August 11, 2019, 05:40:04 PM »

Team USA update

Bam and Thad replaced by Bagley and D White

17 players, 5 cuts left

https://www.nba.com/article/2019/08/10/team-usa-reshuffles-roster-after-intrasquad-scrimmage

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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7368 on: August 12, 2019, 03:09:13 AM »

Bagley bags it ...
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« Reply #7369 on: August 12, 2019, 03:21:54 AM »

And then there were 16.
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« Reply #7370 on: August 12, 2019, 04:06:05 AM »

You'd think it would be a great op for a young guy like Bagley.
Up his profile, play with future all-stars, compete at a high level, coached by Pops and Co, see the world a bit. 

Also, Fox and Barnes are on the team, so it's a chance to work with the two key players on your team during the mid-Summer.

So I don't get it.
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« Reply #7371 on: August 12, 2019, 11:01:52 AM »

Thanks Carlos!

If 2 of the Frank, RJ, Knox group hit threes at a good clip, they could become a tough group on the perimeter.

Fizz should have put the work into Frank last year instead of the guy currently slated to play back up PG for the Jazz.

I think Payton will start and hold down the PG spot for us this year.

I favor this as well if the roster stays as is

I also see Smith coming off the bench like a house of fire

2 guards will do a lot of sitting if not producing but I do see many games where we play 10/11
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« Reply #7372 on: August 13, 2019, 05:28:01 PM »

Deep rotations allow you to demand energy and play aggressive D despite tight whistles.

I donít think anyone can expect to get more than 30 minutes a game this season except Randle unless they play so well that it makes it impossible to pull them off the floor. I think itís more likely we see a spread of minutes and production at most spots.

Under this scenario, non-Randle starters could see 24-28 minutes per game.

We have enough vets to pepper them over two platoons to reenforce a continuity of professional play while still having room to work in our various tiers of youth.
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0-3 out the gate
« Reply #7373 on: August 13, 2019, 06:45:05 PM »

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« Reply #7374 on: August 13, 2019, 07:35:03 PM »

Iím no longer banned on Elba when using safari on my phone!


Take that for data Carlos123!
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« Reply #7375 on: August 13, 2019, 07:54:26 PM »

Oh shit! Kamís Back. Fizz better be on his toes!
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A full month worth of games and Zero Wins
« Reply #7376 on: August 13, 2019, 09:34:02 PM »

Wednesday, Nov. 20 at Philadelphia, 7 p.m.
Saturday, Nov. 23 vs. San Antonio, 7:30 p.m.
Sunday, Nov. 24 vs. Brooklyn, 6 p.m.
Wednesday, Nov. 27 at Toronto, 7:30 p.m.
Friday, Nov. 29 vs. Philadelphia, 7:30 p.m.
Sunday, Dec. 1 vs. Boston, 3:30 p.m.
Sunday, Dec. 2 at Milwaukee, 8 p.m.
Thursday, Dec. 5 vs. Denver, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Dec. 7 vs. Indiana, 7:30 p.m.
Tuesday, Dec. 10 at Portland, 10 p.m.
Wednesday, Dec. 11 at Golden State, 10:30 p.m.
Friday, Dec. 13 at Sacramento, 10 p.m.
Sunday, Dec. 15 at Denver, 8 p.m.
Tuesday, Dec. 17 vs. Atlanta, 7:30 p.m.
Friday, Dec. 20 at Miami, 8 p.m.
Saturday, Dec. 21 vs. Milwaukee, 7:30 p.m.
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« Reply #7377 on: August 13, 2019, 09:39:20 PM »

Oh shit! Kamís Back. Fizz better be on his toes!

Fizz is a good guy to have on the staff.  But we need more than a cheerleader at the helm this year.  He needs to earn that salary and not be the jovial "Assistant coach" personality so much.  Be the drill sergeant.  Not their friend.  You didn't "get" anyone "right" last year.
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« Reply #7378 on: August 13, 2019, 09:43:06 PM »

Our two easiest stretches of games and best chance to post anything approaching a 3+ game win streak.

Monday, Feb. 3 at Cleveland, 7 p.m.
Thursday, Feb. 6 vs. Orlando, 7:30 p.m.
Saturday, Feb. 8 at Detroit, 7 p.m.
Sunday, Feb. 9 at Atlanta, 6 p.m.
Wednesday, Feb. 12 vs. Washington, 7:30 p.m.




Friday, March 6 vs. Oklahoma City, 7:30 p.m.
Sunday, March 8 vs. Detroit, 7:30 p.m.
Tuesday, March 10 at Washington, 7 p.m.
Wednesday, March 11 at Atlanta, 7:30 p.m.
Friday, March 13 at Miami, 8 p.m.
Tuesday, March 17 vs. Charlotte, 7:30 p.m.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7379 on: August 13, 2019, 11:25:02 PM »

With the exception of the Cleveland and Charlotte games, I don't see anything that's guaranteed easy.
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