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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7395 on: August 15, 2019, 03:04:14 AM »

Haven't the Knix tried and failed to get a 1st for Frankie already?
Datsun gets you maybe a 2nd.  Sell Low on those two, so I would hold off.

I don't see a trade soon.  I assume we'll go into the season with a lot of depth, let guys compete, figure out rotations and combinations, and how to get yute minutes.

Then after things shake out for a few months, a trade might go down after Dec 15 when we can move guys like Portis, Ellington, Peyton and Taj.  I think it's more likely that Franc is thrown in as a sweetener in a larger trade.  Say, Portis, Trier and Franc for Covington.
Or Morris and Franc.  But that might be too little for Minny.
But that's the kind of 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 we can make.  Giving another team depth and a few interesting players for a starter upgrade.

I could see one of Jr. Smith/Peyton getting moved.
Also, wouldn't be surprised if Knix consider moving Knox if RJrB and Morris look good.  Though most of our vets are on short-term deals.
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« Reply #7396 on: August 15, 2019, 03:18:44 AM »

I kind of want to see what a year or two of growing into his body and playing with Taj does to Knox’s game.

I’m inclined to see who the 10-12 most important guys are in terms of rotation through December and seeking offers on the rest. I think we could use another real center, but I wouldn’t be upset if we stood pat.

I just wonder if we are going to have schemes worthy of the talent the front office has assembled.
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« Reply #7397 on: August 15, 2019, 05:53:51 AM »

I would have liked to have kept Kornet.
He was turning into a genuine long-armed paint defender.
And his 3-point shot was nearly there.  He was very good on wide open 3's, and bringing an opp Big out is useful.

I don't want to give up on Franc.  But Knix pretty much have.
They're just too embarrassed to cash him in for a 2nd rounder (which I wouldn't do either).

I like Knox.  And I like keeping homegrown talent.
(notice Ariza has had a nice career, never was expensive and is still in the League)

But we need to evaluate Knox.
See how he pairs with R&B Jr.   A big key going forward.
See if he can up his defense to semi-attentive.
Improve his shot selection.  Develop more consistency.
He's uber-young, has a good body, and nice talent.
But also a lot to work on.
Don't want to harm his confidence, but if I'm Fizzbottom, I tell Knox that we have a vet team this year, and his minutes are going to be related to his effort and execution on D.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7398 on: August 15, 2019, 08:23:17 AM »

Haven't the Knix tried and failed to get a 1st for Frankie already?
Datsun gets you maybe a 2nd.  Sell Low on those two, so I would hold off.

I don't see a trade soon.  I assume we'll go into the season with a lot of depth, let guys compete, figure out rotations and combinations, and how to get yute minutes.

Then after things shake out for a few months, a trade might go down after Dec 15 when we can move guys like Portis, Ellington, Peyton and Taj.  I think it's more likely that Franc is thrown in as a sweetener in a larger trade.  Say, Portis, Trier and Franc for Covington.
Or Morris and Franc.  But that might be too little for Minny.
But that's the kind of 2-for-1 or 3-for-1 we can make.  Giving another team depth and a few interesting players for a starter upgrade.

I could see one of Jr. Smith/Peyton getting moved.
Also, wouldn't be surprised if Knix consider moving Knox if RJrB and Morris look good.  Though most of our vets are on short-term deals.

Portis, Gibson and Payton are NOT getting dealt early on in the campaign. 
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« Reply #7399 on: August 15, 2019, 08:24:53 AM »

I think Knox is with us all year

Deals considered in summer if he has looked mediocre

Chance of mediocrity - 60-40 for

Chance of being dealt - 90-10 against

Likely at least a three year Knick
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« Reply #7400 on: August 15, 2019, 01:30:43 PM »

I'm not really expecting an in-season trade.
Just noting that with our depth we could help a contender, especially by sending out multiple players.  And one or more of our newcomers might not fit.
Taj is a seasoned vet who could help a team needing a bench Big.
Morris seems like a pretty good mercenary too.
A team that needs a backup Point, or starter in case of injury, might be interested in Peyton or Jr. Smith.

Knix have lots of assets so can be opportunistic.

Portis, Gibson and Payton are NOT getting dealt early on in the campaign.

Not sure what you mean by "early on"
They can be moved after Dec 15.  Most in-season trades occur close to the trade deadline. 

Right now, I only see R&B, Mitch and Randle as definite keepers for this year.  To a lesser extent Knox.  After that, everyone seems reasonably available if a beneficial deal arises.
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« Reply #7401 on: August 15, 2019, 01:54:31 PM »

Boogie back to one-legged status.

Reportedly tore an ACL while working out.

Weren't there some folks here who wanted the Knix to sign the injury-prone, overweight, malcontent? 
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« Reply #7402 on: August 15, 2019, 04:07:53 PM »

Francessa pushing Melo to Knicks
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« Reply #7403 on: August 15, 2019, 04:24:47 PM »

Francessa needs to put down the pipe.

I like Kornet and I hope he continues to progress. I’d play Portis and Taj ahead of him at both C and PF. He probably would have been a better signing than Bullock, but it’s not a major disappointment to me.

Lakers will be shopping for a backup center. Isn’t Gortat still available?

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« Reply #7404 on: August 15, 2019, 04:33:48 PM »

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« Reply #7405 on: August 15, 2019, 04:34:13 PM »

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« Reply #7406 on: August 15, 2019, 06:51:41 PM »

See, there's already a good landing spot for Taj.

Lakes would love to have him . . .
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« Reply #7407 on: August 15, 2019, 07:22:26 PM »

See, there's already a good landing spot for Taj.

Lakes would love to have him . . .

Cause he’s good, which is why we’ll love having him.

I hope the Lakers grab Noah. JoNo & McGee is at least a very active defensive pivot rotation. It lets AD play the PF and adds to LA’s collection of weird players.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7408 on: August 15, 2019, 08:53:10 PM »

Haven't the Knix tried and failed to get a 1st for Frankie already?
Datsun gets you maybe a 2nd.  Sell Low on those two, so I would hold off.


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« Reply #7409 on: August 15, 2019, 09:48:06 PM »

I think they should at least get a crack at unburying themselves against their roster competition before anyone packs anyone’s bags.
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