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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7410 on: August 15, 2019, 10:37:08 PM »

I think they should at least get a crack at unburying themselves against their roster competition before anyone packs anyone’s bags.

In an ideal world, Frank's selflessness would offset RJB's high usage rate.  I like that pair together as a backcourt.  Both guys can switch the man they are guarding and help guard 3 and some 4s on switches as well at least with their long arms and young legs.
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Re: Knicks
« Reply #7411 on: August 15, 2019, 10:41:03 PM »

Boogie back to one-legged status.

Reportedly tore an ACL while working out.

Weren't there some folks here who wanted the Knix to sign the injury-prone, overweight, malcontent?

I loved watching Boogie play. He and AD had a good thing going.

Certainly would have loved to sign him pre - first ACL. More talent in that body then all 15 PFs and Scrubs we bought this summer put together.

Looks like he's cooked though. So it goes.


*** I think "malcontent" is code for the kind of scary big black folks Bo always hates
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« Reply #7412 on: August 16, 2019, 03:40:58 AM »

Scary?  The NBA is filled with wealthy pampered athletes.  Some fake tough guys, but I doubt there's anybody scary or threatening in the League.  It's probably not allowed.   
Look, it's not easy being suddenly wealthy and famous at a young age.
Some handle it better than others.   Maturity takes time.

Did Cousin Boogie have skills?  Sure.  Was he professional?  Not so much.
He was petulant and emotional and let things distract him on court.
He also was never in good shape, which likely contributed to his many injuries.  When I think of Boogie, I think of him arguing calls, not getting back on D or just hacking a driving opp, chucking up long J's.  (towards the end he started making 3's okay, but any time Boog was jacking a 3 made it easier on the D).

I kept saying SACto should trade him while his value was high.
At least they got Hield (who was struggling at the time) and a mid-1st rounder -- but they clearly waited too long.

It took Boogie 6 years before his team cracked 30 W's.  24, 22, 28, 28, 29, and then coming up big with 33 W's.  Not that they were a model franchise, but they probably could have won 25 games a year without Boogie.  In fact they did, the year before he joined them.  His only full year in NOPe, Boogie played a little more than half the games (48) and averaged 5 turnovers.

I don't care for no-D playing, high-maintenance guys.  A sloppy player who was always unlikely to reach his potential.  A career 20 & 10 guy who never won anything or led anything.  Head held him back.  Never got in good condition.  Injury and emotion prone.
His body fell apart before he could get his head together. 
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« Reply #7413 on: August 16, 2019, 03:59:46 AM »

It’s why I really like the additions of Marcus and Taj as well as Randle and Portis. These are all guys who take the game seriously and get better as they go. The young vets are bigger and more talented, but the old ones use their talents and canniness to play efficiently and produce excellent defense. It means never having to leave a kid out on a island to get physically pounded. We like Mitch and to a lesser extent Knox to pickup those roles, but we don’t have to rely on it to put a competitive five on the floor. Bobby Portis is going to be asked to knock some people around in a Vonleh like role.
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« Reply #7415 on: August 16, 2019, 08:30:40 AM »

I think they should at least get a crack at unburying themselves against their roster competition before anyone packs anyone’s bags.

It's called training camp

Time in games is EARNED
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« Reply #7416 on: August 16, 2019, 08:34:36 AM »

Scary?  The NBA is filled with wealthy pampered athletes.  Some fake tough guys, but I doubt there's anybody scary or threatening in the League.  It's probably not allowed.   
Look, it's not easy being suddenly wealthy and famous at a young age.
Some handle it better than others.   Maturity takes time.

Did Cousin Boogie have skills?  Sure.  Was he professional?  Not so much.
He was petulant and emotional and let things distract him on court.
He also was never in good shape, which likely contributed to his many injuries.  When I think of Boogie, I think of him arguing calls, not getting back on D or just hacking a driving opp, chucking up long J's.  (towards the end he started making 3's okay, but any time Boog was jacking a 3 made it easier on the D).

I kept saying SACto should trade him while his value was high.
At least they got Hield (who was struggling at the time) and a mid-1st rounder -- but they clearly waited too long.

It took Boogie 6 years before his team cracked 30 W's.  24, 22, 28, 28, 29, and then coming up big with 33 W's.  Not that they were a model franchise, but they probably could have won 25 games a year without Boogie.  In fact they did, the year before he joined them.  His only full year in NOPe, Boogie played a little more than half the games (48) and averaged 5 turnovers.

I don't care for no-D playing, high-maintenance guys.  A sloppy player who was always unlikely to reach his potential.  A career 20 & 10 guy who never won anything or led anything.  Head held him back.  Never got in good condition.  Injury and emotion prone.
His body fell apart before he could get his head together.

Let's go to Coach Calipari for the rebuttal
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« Reply #7417 on: August 16, 2019, 10:35:11 AM »

or any of his coaches or teammates last 3 teams...
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« Reply #7418 on: August 16, 2019, 10:36:01 AM »

Bo is just scared of "a type"
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« Reply #7419 on: August 16, 2019, 12:00:10 PM »

Some updated figures for NBA

Just eight teams less than 20-1 to win it all

Take a guess

Clippers  +330
Lakers  +440
Bucks   +550
Sixers   +850
Rockets   +950
Jazz     +1200
Warriors   +1400
Nuggets   +1900


(Knicks)    +25000
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« Reply #7420 on: August 16, 2019, 12:31:55 PM »

Bo is just scared of "a type"

Poor defenders
Overweight
Immature
Losers

Yep, those types scare me right away.


Possible that Boogie has grown up.
But he was a trainwreck (with good numbers!) on those awful Kings teams.
Unfortunately his body has broken down.
Unclear if he can/wants to return from this.
Though it's not easy to otherwise find a $2M annual salary.
Some folks bodies just aren't able to withstand the NBA pounding and grind.
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« Reply #7421 on: August 16, 2019, 01:16:13 PM »

heh

Cousins will make much more than 2 mil down the line.
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« Reply #7422 on: August 16, 2019, 06:20:24 PM »

He only signed for 1 year $3.5M this year.

Add another major injury and another year of age and rust.

He'll be 30 when he returns after missing a season.
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« Reply #7423 on: August 16, 2019, 09:16:38 PM »

I would bet LAL take him back
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« Reply #7424 on: August 16, 2019, 09:48:09 PM »

BoZ is just scared of "a type"

only scared of an internet evil type

Les, you my doggie, but need to learn to write names properly, and don't forget your Zs
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