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Total Members Voted: 3

Voting closed: June 13, 2022, 11:38:11 PM

[bodiddley]

"I did doubt CHA would max Kemba...."
"I think CHA has been poorly run..."
So in your opinion CHA should have maxed him?

I think the Bobs put themselves in a bad position.  Maxing Kemba would have made it hard for them to do much else, and they need a lot of help.  So a max Kemba and a crummy team is pretty useless.   And they are historically a cheap team.  So if I was Jordan, I would have offered Kemba a pretty good deal, less than the max and hoped he stayed.

Flipping KW for Rozier is a real roll of the dice.  Rozier has talent, but is small, inconsistent, and moody.  Also didn't perform well last year and is now overpaid.  The playoff experience is a +.  The career 38% FG is not.
Kind of reminds me of Dennis Shroder.

A shame they didn't hold on to Shai G-A, who could have understudied with Kemba and been ready to take over this year.  Would much rather a cheap young PG ($4M) than Rozier ($20M).  Shai has size and some nice skills.  Looked nice for LAC.  OKC will be what he would have had in CHA last year (unless/until OKC moves Chris Paul).

[bodiddley]

This article quotes Rozier as saying he got a Knick offer (reportedly 1 year) and was planning on coming to NYC, then the offer got topped by PHX.  And finally CHA made the biggest offer.

Wonder how big the Knick offer was.
Obviously we wouldn't have signed Elfrid if Rozier joined.
And probably his contract would have precluded signing Ellington (or Taj).
Assuming it was around $16M for one year for Rozier (what Elfrid and Ellington make together).

Hmmm.  I would have been up for Rozier 1/$16M and no Elfrid and no Ellington.  Rozier pretty similar to Jr. Smith, but further along.  And we have Trier, Dot at SG.  Rozier and Randle woulda been interesting together.  Rozier not the best choice to help Barrett and Knox develop, but it could have been fun/interesting.

[bodiddley]

Just read a CHA writer stating that Bridges will start at PF over Marv Williams.  Maybe.  Might be a good year to go youth.  And if Bridges doesn't fall down, then try to trade Marv for some young asset.  Marv could help a playoff team.  Savvy vet, can do a little of everything, including pop some open 3's.

Might make more sense to start Marv to keep his value and steady a young roster, and then trade him midway through the season for a pick or young player, and promote Bridges then.

I'm assuming Batum starts at SG, since Rozier and Monk sound like a mess.   Rather just give them some spot minutes to see how they pair.

PJ Washington was the #12 pick.  Didn't play in Summer due to foot soreness.  PF.  Reportedly can play inside and out.  CHA never tires of drafting Bigs

[kiidcarter8]

One more year for Kidd-Gilchrist

TWO for Zeller, who has been fine.

Interesting team this year.

[kiidcarter8]

Yeah, its between MKG and Marvin to start.  Bridges takes the other (3/4)

Zeller
Rozier
Batum

Biyombo off the pine, with MKG/Marv, Monk, Devonte Graham, Hernangomez and the aforementioned P J Washington, who can play.

[kiidcarter8]

This article quotes Rozier as saying he got a Knick offer (reportedly 1 year) and was planning on coming to NYC, then the offer got topped by PHX.  And finally CHA made the biggest offer.

Wonder how big the Knick offer was.
Obviously we wouldn't have signed Elfrid if Rozier joined.
And probably his contract would have precluded signing Ellington (or Taj).
Assuming it was around $16M for one year for Rozier (what Elfrid and Ellington make together).

Hmmm.  I would have been up for Rozier 1/$16M and no Elfrid and no Ellington.  Rozier pretty similar to Jr. Smith, but further along.  And we have Trier, Dot at SG.  Rozier and Randle woulda been interesting together.  Rozier not the best choice to help Barrett and Knox develop, but it could have been fun/interesting.

Typical NY - lose a player because you are trying to set up cap space for future.

One year?  Rozier was taking one year?  Please.

[kiidcarter8]

Bo, your betting NO on Bridges is once again noted.

Careful.......

[kiidcarter8]

Charlotte loves AP All Americans

Starting with Kemba (1st team 2010-11)

Kidd-Gilchrist (3rd team '11-'12)

C Zeller (2nd team '12-'13)

Kaminsky (1st team '14-'15)

Monk (2nd team '16-'17)

Bridges (2nd team '17-'18) and D Graham (1st team '17-'18)

Washington (3rd team '18-'19)

[kiidcarter8]

10000 points
5000 rebounds
3000 assists
800 steals
500 blocks

- reachable for Batum in this contract (by age 32)

14.9 career PER (top 17.3, low 11.9 - last year)

Off a 45/39/87 shooting year

[Kam]

This article quotes Rozier as saying he got a Knick offer (reportedly 1 year) and was planning on coming to NYC, then the offer got topped by PHX.  And finally CHA made the biggest offer.

Wonder how big the Knick offer was.
Obviously we wouldn't have signed Elfrid if Rozier joined.
And probably his contract would have precluded signing Ellington (or Taj).
Assuming it was around $16M for one year for Rozier (what Elfrid and Ellington make together).

Hmmm.  I would have been up for Rozier 1/$16M and no Elfrid and no Ellington.  Rozier pretty similar to Jr. Smith, but further along.  And we have Trier, Dot at SG.  Rozier and Randle woulda been interesting together.  Rozier not the best choice to help Barrett and Knox develop, but it could have been fun/interesting.

Typical NY - lose a player because you are trying to set up cap space for future.

One year?  Rozier was taking one year?  Please.

Bullet dodged.  Rozier is nice but not 3yrs/58m nice.  Can't build a team paying scary terry that much of your cap.  Will he ever make an All-Star or All-NBA?  What's his best skill?

[facilitatorn]

Our entire PG rotation of Elfrid, Dennis, and Frank is cheaper, this year and next, than Rozier. There’s a decent chance more than one of them is better than Rozier on an individual level over that span. Rozier might be this summer’s equivalent of THJ’s inflated deal just now ending in Dallas.

Of the lower echelon teams in the East, Charlotte seems most primed to take an immediate step backwards.

[kiidcarter8]

Rozier plays both ends - hasnt had a team to run since college.

Payton could be better than TR - but
knicks will play it stupid and have him share the role even if he is.

DSJ?  I see Rozier as clearly better.

[facilitatorn]

Rozier shoots .390 fg%, with an efg of .480. He can shoot 3’s but can’t really finish. On a good day he may be a wash offensively. He does a good job, minus his bricks, of taking care of the ball.

Will expanded minutes and responsibly for Rozier raise his efficiency, or will the extra demands erode his ball protection making him unfit for a lead guard role?

He does have an offensive profile like an aging Jose Calderon so far in his young career...

Cleveland is as bad or worse than Charlotte, though Cleveland started from a worse spot. Those two set the new bottom for the East.

[kiidcarter8]

I dont think Cha deals Bridges for Shae right now.

Maybe Huerter - or in time....  Michael Porter

[kiidcarter8]

Rozier shoots .390 fg%, with an efg of .480. He can shoot 3’s but can’t really finish. On a good day he may be a wash offensively. He does a good job, minus his bricks, of taking care of the ball.

Will expanded minutes and responsibly for Rozier raise his efficiency, or will the extra demands erode his ball protection making him unfit for a lead guard role?

He does have an offensive profile like an aging Jose Calderon so far in his young career...

Cleveland is as bad or worse than Charlotte, though Cleveland started from a worse spot. Those two set the new bottom for the East.

hmmmm

says VEGAS anyway

We'll see.  Certainly true that Knicks arent far from that.

Makes sense that there would be a poor bottom THREE of you have TWELVE vying for playoff slots.