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Who will win the NBA Final?

Warriors in 4
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« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2018, 09:34:24 PM »

Was Ben Wallace a 6th man under 10?

Harden over 20?
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« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2018, 04:51:03 AM »

x  Harden was 6th Man once with a 16.8 PPG average

x  Ben Wallace never was a 6th Man winner
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« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2018, 10:33:01 AM »

Okay, I got one.

The 6th Man of the Year was instituted for the '82-'83 season.

Since then only 3 players have won 6th Man with an average of 20+ Pts/game. 
And only 3 players have won 6th Man honors with an average below 10 Pts/game.
Both are impressive.

Name those 6th bench greats.

Bonus:  Who is the only player to win 6th Man while playing under 20 mins/game?

Give me the bonus.

Just checked my recollection with the google machine, Bill "What a long strange trip its been" Walton won the 6th man award in '85-86 with the Celts playing just under 20 mpg and scoring under 8 ppg.   
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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2018, 10:51:12 AM »

Bill Walton fewest minutes (19.6) and Points (7.6) for a 6th Man winner.  When he was on the Celts of course.

20+ Pts per game
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2. Lou Williams  22.6
3.

<10  PPG
1. Bill Walton  7.6
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« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2018, 04:50:42 PM »

Under 10?
Detlef Shrempf

Over 20?
Eric Gordon
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« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2018, 05:40:48 PM »

Under 10?
Detlef Shrempf

16.1 & 17.3 in his two 6th man campaigns.
Guy put the ball in the basket.

You need to think defenders.

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Over 20?
Eric Gordon

16.2

The two other 20+ 6th Men go back a ways.
Classic bench scorers of their day.
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« Reply #66 on: November 30, 2018, 10:15:17 AM »

Andrew Toney, Michael Cooper?
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« Reply #67 on: November 30, 2018, 11:34:51 AM »

Andrew Toney, Michael Cooper?

Right type of player, but neither won the award.

Some hints:
1) Of the under 10 point 6th Men, one was a Knick when he won.

2) the other sub-10 Pt 6th Man was a teammate of one of your two above guesses.
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3) Of the 20+ scorers, one won the 6th Man award twice. 
Was considered the classic 6th man scorer of his day.  Late 80's.

4) The other 20+ 6th Man writes a column for Hoopshype now and then.


New Bonus Q

3 Knix won 6th Man of the Year.
And one ex-Knick.
Who was they?
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« Reply #68 on: November 30, 2018, 02:21:48 PM »

Fat Lever
Anthony Mason
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« Reply #69 on: November 30, 2018, 02:28:09 PM »

(3) Ricky Pierce and (4) Eddie Johnson were the scorers, thanks for the hints

1) Anthony Mason, of course 2) Kurt Rambis? Mychal Thompson? Bobby Jones? Mo Cheeks? I really have no idea.

Bonus is a bit easier: Starks, Mason, Earl plus Crawford
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« Reply #70 on: November 30, 2018, 05:19:58 PM »

Well, thanks for reviving the question.
Correct on the Knix.

20+ 6th Men:

1989-90  Ricky Pierce    MIL  23.0 Pts
2017-18  Lou Williams   LAC  22.6
1988-89  Eddie Johnson PHO 21.5 

Although it's kind of line drawing, as McHale averaged 19.8; Terry 19.6; Manu & Pierce again 19.5. At least all 3 top scorers were above 21 PPG, and didn't just skim over 20.

Ricky Pierce scored nearly 15K Points in his career, while coming off the bench over 70% of the time.  Pretty impressive.


As for low-scoring 6th Men, Bobby Jones was the final one.
Another classic 6th Man.

The list of lowest scoring 6th men Winners:

1994-95  Anthony Mason  NYK  9.9
1982-83  Bobby Jones  PHI  9.0
1985-86  Bill Walton    BOS  7.6

Next lowest scoring winner was another '6er Aaron Mckie (11.9 Pts)
Bill Walton's mere 7.6 is pretty amazing.  Walton was a hair under 20 mpg.  While most of these 6th Men winners averaged around 30 mins per.

Here's a link to the full sortable list: https://www.basketball-reference.com/awards/smoy.html

Fun to recall such names as Darrell Armstrong; Roy Tarpley, Dell Curry, Bobby Jackson, Danny Manning, etc.  I remember that one year when Rodney Rogers was just killing it.
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« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2018, 03:26:16 PM »

A series of statements will be presented about a mystery player.  Try to answer in as few clues as possible.

0-1 Clues: You are an NBA Savant
2-4 Clues: Experts consider you an expert
5-7 Clues: You know more about the NBA than the other 99%


Here are your first four clues

1. I played 14 seasons in the NBA for four different teams
2. I was a 9 time All-Star and All-Star game MVP once
3. I was a part of the original "Dream Team" that demolished opponents by 44 ppg
4. I'm a hall of famer as a player and a coach
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« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2018, 12:36:10 PM »

A series of statements will be presented about a mystery player.  Try to answer in as few clues as possible.

0-1 Clues: You are an NBA Savant
2-4 Clues: Experts consider you an expert
5-7 Clues: You know more about the NBA than the other 99%


Here are your first four clues

1. I played 14 seasons in the NBA for four different teams
2. I was a 9 time All-Star and All-Star game MVP once
3. I was a part of the original "Dream Team" that demolished opponents by 44 ppg
4. I'm a hall of famer as a player and a coach

Kam would the following be true?

5. I did not play on the Dream Team.

6. I last pro-coached the Knicks?


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« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2018, 01:01:31 PM »

You’re thinking Lenny was an assistant on the Dream Team
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« Reply #74 on: December 04, 2018, 01:28:00 PM »

A series of statements will be presented about a mystery player.  Try to answer in as few clues as possible.

0-1 Clues: You are an NBA Savant
2-4 Clues: Experts consider you an expert
5-7 Clues: You know more about the NBA than the other 99%


Here are your first four clues

1. I played 14 seasons in the NBA for four different teams
2. I was a 9 time All-Star and All-Star game MVP once
3. I was a part of the original "Dream Team" that demolished opponents by 44 ppg
4. I'm a hall of famer as a player and a coach

Kam would the following be true?

5. I did not play on the Dream Team.

6. I last pro-coached the Knicks?

BINGO
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