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bodiddley

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Re: NBA
« Reply #165 on: July 23, 2019, 12:48:18 AM »

Good job.
Not an easy question.


Redick  13 straight playoff appearances.
Korver 12.
Harden & Paddy Mills 10.

Will try to check on Green.
Was he on the playoff roster in CLE?  Or his first year in SAS?
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« Reply #166 on: July 23, 2019, 02:32:37 AM »

It looks like he was on Clevelandís playoff roster that year but never got into a game as best I can tell.
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« Reply #167 on: July 29, 2019, 06:45:29 AM »

100 Best Dunk compilation from last season

Knix with more than their share.
7 or 8, I think.

Trier's early season rampage.
Vonleh and Zonja with one each.
Knox on a nice backdoor cut, late season when DeAndretheGiant started going Bill Walton for a couple weeks.
Jr. Smith off the backboard lob to DeGiant
Smith Jr. in the open court.
Mud suddenly rimward (and Clyde commenting We haven't seen that all year from Mud)
That's 7 and maybe there was one more.

I think my favorite is Wade sneakily passing up a slam attempt at #21, I think.  Also, a couple of Anti-Greek's long-armed driving slams are crazy.

Surprising to see Caruso on there twice with a pair of highlight jams.  I remember the putback jam, think I was watching that Lake game.
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Re: NBA
« Reply #168 on: August 01, 2019, 11:13:39 AM »

1.   Portland   $143,166,392
2.   Oklahoma    $133,827,363
3.   Miami   $131,042,832
4.   Cleveland   $130,333,130
5.   Denver   $130,053,769

6.   Detroit   $129,409,770
7.   Gold State   $128,722,213
8.   Houston   $123,850,521
9.   Charlotte   $118,050,174
10.   Minnesota   $117,954,823

11.   Memphis   $117,092,002
12.  Washington $116,116,569

Wow.  Only 4 of them playoff locks.
Probably just 5 of them make the playoffs.

The ones in bold are the head-scratchers.
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Re: NBA
« Reply #169 on: August 07, 2019, 01:21:42 PM »

DEN might have the best bench:
Monte Morris
Malik Beasley
Torrey Craig  + Juan Hernangomez/ Michael Porter Jr.
Jerami Grant
Mason Plumlee

SActo with good depth:
Cory Joseph - Trevor Ariza - Bogdan Bogdanovic - Nemanja Bjelica/Harry Giles Goatboy - Richaun Holmes

Knicks too:
Elfrid Payton  /  Frank Ntilikina
Allonzo Trier  /  Damyean Dotson
Marcus Morris (or Knox)
Taj Gibson   
Bobby Portis

Clips have a nice bench:
Lou W - Shamet - Mo Hark - JaMike - Kabengele/Motley
(just need a vet backup PG)



6ers have an iffy bench:
Shake Milton / Trey Burke
Zhaire Smith / Furkan Korkmaz
James Ennis III   
Mike Scott / Jonah Bolden
Kyle O'Quinn

But they have such a dominant starting 5. 
Just need to hope one of Korkmaz, Bolden, Zhaire can be solid and eat up some minutes.

GSW with an uncharacteristically thin bench.
Looney and some iffy players.  Of course will be better once Klay returns to start.



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« Reply #170 on: August 09, 2019, 10:16:46 AM »

Could a lack of depth be what holds the Philadelphia 76ers back from an NBA title in 2020?

PHI really needs one or two of Shake/Kork/Zhaire/Bolden to step up.
Bolden is nicely athletic but inexperienced.  The other 3 I barely know.
Ennis and KO'Q are fairly steady decent role players.  Mike Scott is erratic, a mistake player who can get hot.  Not a guy I want to trust.  But the backcourt bench looks questionable.  As that article says, Elton Brand might need to make an in-season move to solidify things.

I've come to believe a quality bench is essential.  (after you've sourced quality starters, of course.  The Knix tend to skip that step the past few years)

TOR doesn't win without Ibaka and FVV.
POR doesn't get so far last year without Zach and Hood (now new starters).

GSW built a dynasty partly on having a superior bench.
Iggy and Livingston were marvelous 2nd unit guys.
Guys like JaVale and Looney made important contributions.
Their weak bench and Klay's injury (+ KD's defection) makes this year a real struggle. 
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« Reply #171 on: August 09, 2019, 01:35:02 PM »

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« Reply #172 on: August 10, 2019, 04:00:31 AM »

I'm looking forward to seeing Goga Bitadze.  Tall skinny supposedly skilled Georgian.

I was just out that way, and the Georgian men tended to be stocky with guts and very round heads, more like wrestlers than hoopsters.  Though there was another distinct type, very thin with a narrow long face and close-set eyes and beaky nose.  It really seemed like two very common types.

Since Enes helped folks learn about Turkey (and Poconos-style Gulenism), I'll take this Goga op to fill you in on Georgia. 

Since 1988, they've fought three wars.  Taking a chunk of Armenian-populated Azerbaijan (in a war that started pre-Soviet breakup, when both were in the USSR); lost half their Black Sea coastline  to Russia (Abkhazia, fka the Georgian Riviera); and lost South Ossetia another chunk of territory in the north not far from the capital Tbilisi.  3 frozen conflicts makes Georgia the current record-holder.

For the past decade. a billionaire controls the country, with his subordinates as the gov't leaders.  He made his money in the Russian aluminum wars, cashing out when it became overly deadly.  So he's connected to Russia, the people all speak Russian as a second language, but Russia is the enemy.  And a tough enemy to have.  Turks come to the Black Sea coast of Georgia to gamble.  The Caucasus Mts generally hit 15,000 to 18K feet and keep Russia mostly at bay.  Which is why tiny Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan survived between Russia, Ottoman Empire and Persia despite getting overrun often enough.

Georgia has a nice wine country.  Georgia and Armenia both lay claim to being the first wine-producers in history.  There's great hiking and skiing.  A genuine democracy, though corrupted some.  There's also a significant grey market and informal economy.  Twice we rented cars from the informal economy.  Once our car rental company was a big fat wrestler-looking dude on the street standing by 5 fairly nice vehicles.  He was amused when I insisted in putting the daily fee on the one-page rental contract.  it was all cheaper and faster and more convenient than dealing with an actual rental company.  For instance, you just call Gregor the Wrestler and he meets you anywhere in the city for your drop-off.

Tbilisi a difficult city to drive in.  Much of Georgia is a speed trap, with mounted cameras all over.  Georgians with a reputation as poor drivers.  Then again, we saw 3 car accidents in a 15 minute stretch re-entering Yerevan, Armenia, so maybe it's a Caucasus thing.

A few times I tried to strike up a basketball convo.  Most folks said that Soccer was the big sport and hoops wasn't that popular.  One guy at a winery was into the NBA and mentioned all the Georgians who played in the NBA. 
Zaza Pachulia, Tornike Shengelia, Vladimir Stepania, Jake Tsakalidis, Nikoloz Tskitishvili.  As you can see, not an imposing list, though 5 from such a tiny country isn't bad at all.  ZaZa is the best of the lot, so not such a high bar for Goga Bitadze to be the best Georgian hoopster ever.

Btw, family names ending in -ivili and -dze  (either -adze or -idze) are very common, distinctly Georgian surnames. 

For instance, Joseph Stalin was a Georgian born Ioseb Besarionis dze Jughashvili.  I went to the Stalin Museum in his hometown of Gori.  Reasonably interesting.    The -dze ending means "son of".  So much like the Irish O'___ or Scandinavian -son or -sen endings.

Similarly the -shvili ending means "child of" and often used akin to from a specific town or region.  Somewhat like  :-\ in Spanish
Apparently the 'dze ending comes from Western Georgia.
Basically surname patronymics like in Russia.
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Re: NBA
« Reply #173 on: August 10, 2019, 11:23:19 AM »

Interesting stuff Bo.

Best player I ever saw from Georgia was Walt Frazier.
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« Reply #174 on: August 13, 2019, 04:55:48 AM »

One thing interesting in the Caucasus.
Azerbaijan, Armenian and Georgian all come from different language groups.

Azerbaijan is a Turkic language and is mutually intelligible with Turkish.

Armenian has Indo-European roots.

While Georgian is an indigenous Caucasian language known as Kartvelian (after one eastern province of Georgia which was an independent kingdom off and on for hundreds of years).   
Kartvelian is not believed to be connected to any other spoken language.  Georgian is the dominant form, but there are three small offshoots spoken by minority groups, including a small population on the Turkish Black Sea coast of around 20K.
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« Reply #175 on: August 23, 2019, 02:04:22 AM »

Russell famously finished his career 10-0 in Game 7s and 16-2 in close-out games. Chamberlain was 4-5 and 10-11, respectively. The two titans met eight times in the playoffs, and Russell won seven of those series, including four Game 7s by a grand total of nine points.

Those four Game 7s ...

1962: Celtics 109, 76ers 107
1965: Celtics 110, 76ers 109
1968: Celtics 100, 76ers 96
1969: Celtics 108, Lakers 106

Interesting how close the series was.
4 G7's in an 8 year period between the two teams.
3 of them decided by 2 points.
Things could easily have gone differently.
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« Reply #176 on: August 23, 2019, 10:25:59 AM »

During the Medal of Freedom award ceremony, Bob Cousy said the medal was made all the more special because it had been presented by the "most extraordinary" president in his lifetime.
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« Reply #177 on: August 23, 2019, 12:24:20 PM »

Russell famously finished his career 10-0 in Game 7s and 16-2 in close-out games. Chamberlain was 4-5 and 10-11, respectively. The two titans met eight times in the playoffs, and Russell won seven of those series, including four Game 7s by a grand total of nine points.

Those four Game 7s ...

1962: Celtics 109, 76ers 107
1965: Celtics 110, 76ers 109
1968: Celtics 100, 76ers 96
1969: Celtics 108, Lakers 106

Interesting how close the series was.
4 G7's in an 8 year period between the two teams.
3 of them decided by 2 points.
Things could easily have gone differently.

The Russell-Wilt wars of the 60s were speciial and likely never to be repeated in any sport. Those guys faced each other almost 150 times, thats almost 2 regular seasons worth of games, with these guys literally battling each other every night. For context, we view Magic-Bird as another great NBA rivalry , but they went head to head (but did not guard each other) I think 37 times. (or something like that) .

But I digress.

I was lucky enough to see a few of the Russell-Wilt battles in person, and Russell and the Celts usually sent me home happy. But the one I remember most vividly was a game the Celts lost to the 76ers, and it occured in the only play-off series Russell lost to Chamberlain, the year Wilt had his dream team, in the '66-67 season.

It was game 2 of the ECF, and Phily had won the first game at home. Game 2 was a Sunday matinee and I had scored tickets (cheap seats were all I could afford) and saw the batle from high above courtside (Johnny Most reference) in the 2nd balcony at the Garden. LSS, Celts fell behind in 3Q and never recovered, and as the clock hit triple zeros, Wilt took the ball and punched it straight up in the air, almost hitting the huge old scoreboard that hovered over mid-court at the Garden.

My friend and I, both a little dejected with the Celts loss decided to kill some time before taking the "T" back home, so we went into the Pinball Arcade to play some games and wait until the crowds thinned out. After dropping a few dimes, we headed towards our train, when suddenly I found myself walking next to a mountain. I looked up and saw a chin and goatee, it was Wilt. and he was fucking huge.

As I looked up, mustering as much courage and sportsmanship as I could, I said, "good game Wilt" and he looked down responded

"Good game? Kid that was a great game"

Then laughed knowing he was headed back to Philly up 2-0 and secure in the knowledge that finally he had a stranglehold on Russell.

And he didn't let go.

The 76ers won the series in 5 and then beat the SF Warriors for the championship.

That 76er team was among all-time greatest NBA teams. 

boxscore from that game

https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/196704020BOS.html
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« Reply #178 on: August 23, 2019, 03:10:10 PM »

In the clinching G5 in PHI, BOS led 37-26 after 1Q.
Got smoked in the 4Q 40-22.
6ers took 56 FT's
Wilt capped off the series with 29 points, 36 Rebounds and 13 Assists.
Quite a title clinching stat line.

I'm reasonably familiar with Wilt's Laker teams from various replays and youtube vids.  But I have barely seen any of Wilt's PHI teams play.  So really have just seen old Wilt.  I should try to watch some PHI Wilt games.
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« Reply #179 on: August 30, 2019, 12:53:15 PM »

I didn't realize that the FIBA World Cup had 32 teams.

The USofA plays in Shanghai in the opening group play.
USA, Turkey, Czech Republic, Japan.
A fairly solid group.

China has a rather easy group.  Poland, Venezuela, Ivory Coast.

I saw a replay of a Serbia v France tune-up game form a couple days ago.
Franc looked exactly the same.  Does some fakes, but doesn't go anywhere.  Though they play a typical Euro game, where everyone touches the ball and can initiate a play.  The ball seemed to move better with the small backup PG in.

France has Gobert, Batum, Fournier, Franc.
And there other guys looked scrappy.
They should do fairly well.
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