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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[josh]

More details emerge on Pentagon drone strike believed to have killed 'ISIS-K planner'


The report's a bit curious, ain't it?

The U.S. drone hit a vehicle carrying the ISIS-K leader who was believed to be "carrying out future attacks," a U.S. official briefed on the strike tells Fox News.

It's not clear if the planner was involved in the suicide attack at Kabul airport Thursday, which killed 13 U.S. service members and wounded 20 others.

The ISIS-K planner was also traveling with an "associate," Fox News understands.

The drone strike took place a few hours ago near the border with Pakistan, the official said.

THIS report is curious to you, but the claims from a guy that 2 of his men managed 7 buses you took at face value.

Incredible.

[LarryBnDC]

http://theweek.com/coronavirus/1004182/republican-elites-willful-pandemic-negligence

Depraved indifference

A lot of that shit is mythology

Shit.

The GOP is leading a slow motion Jonestown

[REDSTATEWARD]

 The data is unmistakable: In a panicked, trying year, Christian school parents and their children fared far better than their public school counterparts.

[josh]

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2021/08/27/how_often_is_television_news_likening_the_afghanistan_withdrawal_to_saigon.html

[facilitatorn]

The data is unmistakable: In a panicked, trying year, Christian school parents and their children fared far better than their public school counterparts.

There is unalloyed mythology fully free of fact or context

[bodiddley]

A few observations on Afghanistan:

* Trump agreed to a May pullout date; Biden backed it up to Sept 11/Aug 31.
The fighting season in the Afghan provinces always kicks off in Spring and ramps up in Summer.  Very little fighting is done in the Winter months.  Why wouldn't a US withdrawal be planned for the non-fighting season, instead of when the Taliban was ramping up its attacks and skirmishes?  Military handover and evacuation would be much easier.  Afghan Gov't would be under less pressure and have time to adjust to the US presence gone.

* One thing good about the remarkably fast Taliban takeover, very little fighting occurred, limiting killings and displacements.  Not saying things can't turn ugly, but the takeover itself was relatively bloodless, compared to the expected 6-12 months of civil warfare the US envisioned.

* The US trained the Afghan army to fight a high-tech war against the Taliban guerrilla fighters.  Drones, satellites, targeting, air power, "precision" guided weapons, etc.  This requires a high level of training, coordination, discipline.  But basics such as pay, supplies, logistics were either overlooked or left to corrupt Afghan officials.  Once the US Air Force and support contractors left, the whole war strategy collapsed.  Reportedly, contractors whisked away helicopter defense systems and their complicated military software, and Afghans were unprepared to repair damaged aircraft.

You'd think you'd want  to train the Afghans in a sustainable form of warfare.  And wouldn't take away crucial elements just as they were needed most.

* the Kabul airport during evacuation presented a very appealing target to any group opposed to the US presence.  The last US troops plus tens of thousands of Afghanis who had cooperated with the US and its allies all huddled together in one chaotic crowd.   Not sure what the options were, but leaving them outside the gates in desperation was a cruel mistake.  They should have found some secure location within the airport walls and/or in the neighboring airport hotels where the people would be less exposed and vulnerable.

* working with the Taliban to some degree has become a necessity. They are in charge of the country and control Kabul with their weapons.  After Sept 1, if you want to extract US contractors from the provinces or Afghan interpreters, the Taliban can permit or stop that.  Also, both the Taliban and the US have an interest in containing ISIL and other terror groups.    Not to mention trying to get humanitarian aid to people in desperate need.   An trying to moderate/influence Taliban implementation of sharia and restrictions on women. 
The reality is the Taliban is the gov't of Afghanistan and to accomplish much of anything in that country will require working with them.

[kiidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/bill-maher-greg-gutfeld-king-of-late-night

[Holly Martins]

The data is unmistakable: In a panicked, trying year, Christian school parents and their children fared far better than their public school counterparts.

Then post the data, so we can unmistake it. 

  (and worth noting that any statistical cohort of families where parochial school is affordable may enjoy overall economic advantages that correlate with better school performance....again,  we need to know what metrics of "fared better" are.)

[Holly Martins]

Bo, compelling case for working with the Taliban.  They need our aid money,  as well as government assets frozen in US banks,  so will have to moderate their previous policies if they want to see that money.   

[Yankguy1]

The data is unmistakable: In a panicked, trying year, Christian school parents and their children fared far better than their public school counterparts.

Then post the data, so we can unmistake it. 

  (and worth noting that any statistical cohort of families where parochial school is affordable may enjoy overall economic advantages that correlate with better school performance....again,  we need to know what metrics of "fared better" are.)

Do you actually think Red has any idea of how to post data?

[REDSTATEWARD]

The data is unmistakable: In a panicked, trying year, Christian school parents and their children fared far better than their public school counterparts.

Then post the data, so we can unmistake it. 

  (and worth noting that any statistical cohort of families where parochial school is affordable may enjoy overall economic advantages that correlate with better school performance....again,  we need to know what metrics of "fared better" are.)

https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2021/08/27/christian_schools_vastly_outperforming_public_schools_during_covid-19_according_to_new_survey_of_parents_110626.html

[Holly Martins]

Thanks,  Ward.   Worth noting that,  in such parental surveys,  parochial schools always fare better.  Every year.   For the obvious reason - parents chose their parochial school with specific criteria, including a more homogeneous student body.   Parents who chose other (nonreligious) private options,  like Waldorf or Montessori school,  also respond similarly to surveys.  Most private schools tend to have better teacher:student ratios,  less disruptive behavior,  and more interaction between teachers and parents.   

The editorial part was anti-union right-wing garbage that conveniently ignores the need for public schools to protect public health, especially when their student population comes more from families with higher risk factors for serious illness.    The more obvious takeaway is that public schools could benefit from smaller class sizes - i. e. taxpayers pay what's needed for more hiring of staff.   Smaller classes also = less spread of viruses.   

[REDSTATEWARD]

Thanks,  Ward.   Worth noting that,  in such parental surveys,  parochial schools always fare better.

And will continue to do so, now in larger numbers.

[LarryBnDC]

Well, not ALL white people...

https://www.theroot.com/its-white-people-1847553027

[josh]

The data is unmistakable: In a panicked, trying year, Christian school parents and their children fared far better than their public school counterparts.

Then post the data, so we can unmistake it. 

  (and worth noting that any statistical cohort of families where parochial school is affordable may enjoy overall economic advantages that correlate with better school performance....again,  we need to know what metrics of "fared better" are.)

https://www.realcleareducation.com/articles/2021/08/27/christian_schools_vastly_outperforming_public_schools_during_covid-19_according_to_new_survey_of_parents_110626.html

There is still no data.

There are numbers bandied about by the president of the group that ostensibly ran the poll, but no sample questions and no link to the actual poll, which is a pretty stunning omission.

This piece was also put out over Real Clear Wire and one of the few places that picked it up quite rightly placed it in their opinion area:
https://www.fairfieldsuntimes.com/opinion/christian-schools-vastly-outperforming-public-schools-during-covid-19-according-to-new-survey-of-parents/article_57350180-7fb4-5b84-8d81-b5c775feaddd.html

The Herzog Foundation's front page declares their mission thusly:

[The Stanley M. Herzog Charitable Foundation