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Should the US be concerned about an invasion of Ukraine by Russia?

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- 0 (0%)
Not really
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Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22440 on: December 21, 2021, 11:55:13 AM »

Not negotiate in good faith means you say you want to reach compromise while never intending to.  The poll numbers do not discredit that.  They only show that a plurality of 41% still favors the bill.  It is no longer a majority because the rest of the undecided group really does not know what the bill is, because it has changed so many times. 
The poll results show 51 per cent of voters OPPOSE BBB
42 per cent support it.
Which has your use of the word PLURALITY  a hilarious fit of nonsense.
Those opposed to the bill form a MAJORITY
Those in favor of the bill form a MINORITY
Hope this helps.

41% for, 34% oppose.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/polls/npr-marist-national-poll-biden-economic-stimulus-december-2021/

That means Bart is correct.  It is favored by a plurality.  Undecided/unsure only count as opposed in your broken mind. 

You do this all the time.  It is dishonest and you use the approach to demean the thinking and research of others.  Don't be surprised to find more members ignoring you.
Barton did not cite a poll but conceded that those in favor at one time had a majority but were now down to a plurality of just 41 per cent. That leaves 59% against or not sure which means once people began to understand what was in the bill their opinions changed.
In West Virginia those against smother those for. Manchin is the 51st Senator to oppose BBB which constitutes a majority. 
In legislatures there are no pluralities.
Every major program in BBB is supported by about 65% in the polls. Like the ACA, which was always popular even when "Obamacare" was not.

"Remember the story about the kid who hates kreplach? Hates and fears the dish, breaks out in these horrible green hives that shift in relief maps all across his body, in the mere presence of kreplach. Kid
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22441 on: December 21, 2021, 12:05:24 PM »

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22442 on: December 21, 2021, 12:17:43 PM »


Every major program in BBB is supported by about 65% in the polls. Like the ACA, which was always popular even when "Obamacare" was not.

Then if Biden has a brain he has a great opportunity to redo the Bill to get Bi partisan support.
But it is not very smart to first throw a hissy fit and call Joe Manchin a fucking liar.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22443 on: December 21, 2021, 12:49:00 PM »

Well, it took longer than I thought but, sure enough, it came.
On CNN Monday Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) stated that Sen. Joe Manchin s (D-WV) opposition to the Build Back Better reconciliation bill is an example of
Joe Manchin, as a white man, showing that he does not care about black people, he does not care about Latinos, he does not care  about immigrants, he does not care about women, and he does not care about the poor.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22444 on: December 21, 2021, 01:01:25 PM »

All true.

Also, at the suggestion of Fox stooge Watters, ambush Fox on-air personalities with kill shots. It will let them know you are tired of them always trying to wreck the United States.
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« Reply #22445 on: December 21, 2021, 02:26:16 PM »

Well, it took longer than I thought but, sure enough, it came.
On CNN Monday Rep. Jamaal Bowman (D-NY) stated that Sen. Joe Manchin s (D-WV) opposition to the Build Back Better reconciliation bill is an example of
Joe Manchin, as a white man, showing that he does not care about black people, he does not care about Latinos, he does not care  about immigrants, he does not care about women, and he does not care about the poor.


Sounds like an accurate description of a guy who drives his Maserati to his yacht.

Manchin is also holding back the Voting Rights legislation so yeah, he is a white man without care nor clue.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22446 on: December 21, 2021, 03:18:34 PM »

A huge percentage of the people in California are from other nations, around a third of our people here in California are immigrants. So a lot of the people here do not have ancestors who went through the Great Depression here in California, etc.

We have some brilliant new immigrants, including new doctors who are immigrants, but their histories may be different than the history of California, for instance they may have experienced the civil war in Nicaragua between the Sandinistas and the Contras, or the civil war in El Slavador, or they may remember the Japanese invading the Philippines during World War II, etc. Or maybe they remember the FARC and the ELN in Colombia and the AUC, etc. We are a part of world history here, we have people from all over the world.

But, many of our new immigrants do not understand that Trump is not a real Republican because they do not remember Reagan, and they do not remember how much Reagan loved the Mexicans, and they do not remember when Reagan made all of our immigrants legal so that they could join labor unions and so that they could call the police in the case of an emergency, etc. Tommy Chong is from Canada and he became a US citizen thanks to Reagan. Pope John Paul II loved Reagan.

Many of the new people here were not here to learn all of the stuff that we learned from living here in California for generations, and many did not see how great it was here in the 1950s, and in the 1980s.

Many never saw the California Dream in action. For me the good times were from when my whole community had jobs working on the Space Shuttles, with Reagan in the White House. Van Nuys still built Chevy Camaros then, and it was always fun to cruise Van Nuys Blvd and go hang out at Balboa Park. In Lancaster people cruised Lancaster Blvd. We had drive-in movies. Heavy Metal was the music of the time when I was a teen and we rocked out and went to great concerts. We had parties with fire pits and kegs of beer in the desert. We had roller skating rinks everywhere for the kids. Out in the desert when I was a teen we did not have all of the gang bullshit, we did not have gangs, instead we had friends and neighbors, and our parties were fun like an Annette Funicello movie.

So, now we have unemployment, crime, gangs selling drugs and killing each other, we have homeless people all over the streets, and you cannot have drive-in movies like in the old days because people will bring guns and shoot each other. In the old days people used to have house parties and they would open their homes up to everyone to have a celebration, but it is not like that anymore.

And San Bernardino used to have beautiful malls and great department stores, they are all gone now. And many of the people do not remember when San Bernardino was a nice area, so they are not angry when they see what San Bernardino has become because they never saw San Bernardino when it was nice.

And police and prisons is not the answer, which is what they did, they built a prison in the middle of my hometown and they started arresting people and putting the people in the prison.

We need to build more colleges instead of prisons. And we need to get back to being the fun good people who we are at our core. Otherwise, what is life about?

Salute,

Tony V.









 
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22447 on: December 21, 2021, 03:29:55 PM »

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« Reply #22449 on: December 21, 2021, 04:41:10 PM »

I read a post on Facebook that said "Be careful who you allow in your boat, and make sure that they are helping to row instead of drilling holes." And it got me thinking, a lot of the people in my boat were drilling holes instead of helping me to row. I had people in my boat who did drugs instead of going to college and they put me down for trying to better my life by studying and training. Instead of trying to help me, they put me down. I do not need to be around people who put me down, even family. I would rather be alone than be treated badly or to have people who are drilling holes instead of helping me to row.

And all that I need is one good woman to be in my boat. I am thinking that I can take a writing class at the community college, and maybe I can meet a good woman, and maybe we can work together as a writing team, and to make movies, etc. I am going to just go it alone, and then go to the community college and try to meet a woman. The women at the college are good women who are trying to study and learn so that they can improve their lives, and I respect that. If you meet a woman at a bar, then you end up with an alcoholic, etc. It is better to meet a woman at a college who is studying and learning in order to try to improve her life.

Salute,

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« Reply #22450 on: December 21, 2021, 06:59:43 PM »

If we can change how people think and feel, then we can change how they behave. Every cent spent for education and training is a cent well spent. And the poor kids in the bad neighborhoods need the help, in Chicago, etc, the best thing is to educate and train the people for whatever opportunities exist there, and there can be redevelopment and beautification.

And with movies, and television shows, and with poetry and with books, etc, and with music, etc, we can change how people think and feel and we can change how they behave.

And the film artists can show you visions of possible worlds, we can explore what adding Crisis Intervention Specialists to our police forces would do, and more psychologists and psychiatrists, and many of the people in jail are ignorant and on drugs and they might be mentally ill as well. If you educate those people then you can change how they think and feel and you can change how they behave.

And here in Compton, California, they can teach the poor people how to sell stuff to the crowds who come to see the football games there in Inglewood, etc. When people learn how to make an honest living then they do not need to be a criminal. And teach them to avoid drugs. Be honest and avoid drugs. And no crime.

If we can change how they think and feel, then we can change how they behave.

Salute,

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22451 on: December 21, 2021, 07:47:38 PM »

Here is what Democrats turned down.  Explain THAT to the folks in Vermont, Bernie


https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/20/politics/joe-manchin-offer-to-biden/index.html

Hundreds of millions to fight climate change - just gone POOF.

Fuck Joe Manchin!

Clap clap
Clap clap clap!

Fuck Joe Manchin!

Clap clap
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Clearly you have a limited understanding of the political world.

Building back bitter, it seems.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22452 on: December 21, 2021, 09:25:38 PM »

Joe takes an apologetic stance on being behind with testing product.



Oh wait - no he would never do that.
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« Reply #22453 on: December 21, 2021, 09:40:01 PM »

Joe takes an apologetic stance on being behind with testing product.



Oh wait - no he would never do that.
Brandon is an extension of the democrat hatred of Americans who when they oppose are labeled as deplorable s and/or racists.
Chickens are coming home to roost
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #22454 on: December 21, 2021, 09:59:23 PM »

Here is what Democrats turned down.  Explain THAT to the folks in Vermont, Bernie


https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/20/politics/joe-manchin-offer-to-biden/index.html

Hundreds of millions to fight climate change - just gone POOF.

Fuck Joe Manchin!

Clap clap
Clap clap clap!

Fuck Joe Manchin!

Clap clap
Clap clap clap!



Clearly you have a limited understanding of the political world.

Building back bitter, it seems.

Limited understanding?

I said Manchin would do this when the Democrats won two senate seat in GA.

Manchin is a self centered asshole who is living  out his I AM KING OF THE WORLD moment 9n the necks of his own constituents.

Fuck that guy and the Joe Lieberman he rode in on.
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