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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Hairy Lime]

"in future cases, we should reconsider all of this Court's substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell."
~ "Justice" Clarence Thomas, page 119
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/19-1392_6j37.pdf

I would like to thank Justice Thomas for pointing out that the claims that these issues would never come under attack were asinine, stupid, and likely out and out duplicitous. They were, most kindly, naive.

  The only clueless one is you

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"Clueless" would be anyone who thinks the current radical activist Court will respect stare decisis on any culture war issue, no matter how it polls. Dems should plaster the suburbs with the Thomas concurrence and the Texas Repo platform between now and November.

SCOTUS does not research polls

You are the one who has essentially argued gay marriage is safe because of its polling, not me.

I contend Gay marriage is safe because no legislature will buck the polls.

You must not be paying attention to the news.

I see what he did there.  National polling is decisive, even though legislatures are state level.  A deeply deceptive argument.  The majority he sees as protecting Obergefell does not exist in at least three states.  ETA - Alabama, Mississippi, and Arkansas.  (what is it about humidity?) A few others have narrow pluralities, wonder how long those would hold up, especially where districting and poll access issues adversely affect legislative parity with voter preferences.

Even statewide polling does not matter. In any reliably Red state, what is going to matter is what the majority of the activist wing of the party want. What matters in any area where one party has a vice grip on a legislative district is what the primary voters want. And they will want marriage equality gone.

[facilitatorn]

Tony, a lot of people bought conservative lies from the likes of Reagan and Bush and Gingrich and society as crumbled steadily as a result. Palm Spings and elsewhere suffer. The shit has got to stop.

In the meantime,

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/6/24/2105967/--We-are-prey-Expert-advice-for-survival-in-a-Post-Roe-world

[facilitatorn]

Heat is carrying off a bunch of the Fox junkies Covid left behind in the Fascist sweat belt.

Their 17th century state governments cannot preserve their dwindling base supporters.

Republicans can pack the courts but they still face consistent problems corrupting Physics, Chemistry, and Biology. The republican low chance of overall success in no way mitigates the certain terrible mess they will continue to make of things for all within their reach for however long they are allowed to function and hold power.

[kidcarter8]

(George Takei double dares)

I like Mr Sulu's tweets.  If he ever wants to take the helm of our starship, he has my vote.
 

 

OUR as in who?  The gays?

[kidcarter8]

It is gonna be a long hot of summer...



Firey.  No doubting this, LB.  Burning cities is your forte.

[facilitatorn]

Beau of the fifth says pack the court,

http://youtu.be/JMrXA0oXy9g

I agree.

[LarryBnDC]

(George Takei double dares)

I like Mr Sulu's tweets.  If he ever wants to take the helm of our starship, he has my vote.
 

 

OUR as in who?  The gays?

Ours as in Americans and that includes you.

[LarryBnDC]

It is gonna be a long hot of summer...



Firey.  No doubting this, LB.  Burning cities is your forte.

Smearing shit on the walls of the Capitol and injuring scores of cops is yours.

BTW how many cities actually burned? I mean the arsons that were not incited by White Supremacists...

[Espnthree]

Trump rightly was scarred heavily in the January 6 hearings.
But he is due some victory laps for getting common sense Justices on SCOTUS.

[FlyingVProd]

Frank Sinatra helped to build Palm Springs, with Bob Hope, and the Ford family, and with Sonny Bono, but they are all dead now.

I think the Betty Ford Center is still in Palm Springs, which is a treatment center that Betty Ford opened. I had a professor who worked there, Dr Herd, and he made it sound like a great place to work. I thought about becoming a Psychiatrist to work at the Betty Ford Center in Palm Springs. I have family in Palm Springs and I love the area.

Right now the main celebrity in Palm Springs is Suzanne Somers, who votes as an Independent, Suzanne has a beautiful family in Palm Springs. Maybe Suzanne can help to save Palm Springs.

And they need more libraries and gardens, and Midnight cafes. And Palm Springs is always a good location to build schools.

Salute,

Tony V.

[LarryBnDC]

Trump rightly was scarred heavily in the January 6 hearings.
But he is due some victory laps for getting common sense Justices on SCOTUS.

You mean Mitch McConnell gets the laps. He stole a seat outright and then used the exact opposite logic to grab another.

Meanwhile the House passed gun reform today which should be a big win for the GOP in terms of defusing a barrel of political dynamite in the midterms.

Your common sense Justices just nuked any advantage gained by the GOP.

Good on ya...

[josh]

Trump rightly was scarred heavily in the January 6 hearings.
But he is due some victory laps for getting common sense Justices on SCOTUS.

He got almost 1 in 3.

Great if you play baseball. Not so good for SCOTUS.\\\\\

[josh]

Reading the decision and the concurrences, I am struck by the stridency of it all.

Nor did Alito's going off on liberals about gun control make me feel any better.

I know that Ward says that Obergefell and Brown, etc., are safe, but I am pretty sure I remember his claiming Roe was safe prior to this, for much the same "reasoning."

[Espnthree]

Trump rightly was scarred heavily in the January 6 hearings.
But he is due some victory laps for getting common sense Justices on SCOTUS.

He got almost 1 in 3.

Great if you play baseball. Not so good for SCOTUS.\\\\\

3 for 3

[Espnthree]

A democrat observation on Biden energy policy



The president should unwind the bureaucratic hurdles to the federal permitting process that his administration installed. They made the regulatory environment so restrictive and unpredictable that construction of new U.S. energy infrastructure has ground to a halt. Investors are wary of the projects that would increase American energy supplies, fearing the administration will block them. Approving the Keystone XL pipeline would be a great way to signal that they need fear no more.
Mr. Biden should also expand oil and gas leases on federal land. After a federal court reversed his attempt to stop leasing on federal lands, in April the administration took to a new tactic of limiting what areas are available for energy extraction. The government will offer only 144,000 acres, though it owns and manages 640 million acres, or 28% of all the land in the U.S. Federal land in total is about six times the size of California. Yet the area the administration has opened to leasing is less than half the size of Phoenix. More that can be made available in a safe and responsible way.

Mr. Biden should stop vilifying U.S. energy producers, many of which are leading the development of technologies to mitigate carbon emissions and make the transition to cleaner energy. Initiatives such as the new carbon-capture project Chevron announced in May are common among these companies. They are  our allies, not our enemies.
Working with the private sector, the administration could develop a national energy strategy to provide Americans a robust supply of affordable energy.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-epa-department-interior-oil-gas-coal-prices-energy-federal-land-water-offshore-leases-keystone-mark-kelly-joe-manchin-11656019175?mod=hp_opin_pos_4#cxrecs_s


Harold Ford, Jr was democrat Congressman in the Tennessee 9th District from 1997-2007.

Any reputable scientist will tell you carbon capture requires green energy infrastructure to achieve its stated goal.  In present form, most proposals are greenwashing.  Just the latest version of ethanol type scamming.   Biden is doing everything he can to promote the absolutely essential and pressing need for green energy development.  And Big Oil is doing everything they can - ad campaigns, donations to politicians, RW media blitzes, lobbying - to impede the vital process.

[email protected]
I am sure he would love to debate you.