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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[facilitatorn]

We good?

Im excellent. You don’t seem that much worse than you were before.

[facilitatorn]

This is why white people are abandoning the idea of America. Someone has convinced them that honesty and self awareness are the same as or lead to drinking black spunk.

This kind of problem must begin with a steady diet of lies from authority figures in little league or in the scouts somewhere latter picked up on the television and now in social media.

A sad and serious problem that won’t be easy to address.

[josh]

Should Larry re-chew your mushy peas for you as well?

The whole republican platform is unpopular. What is to the right of the main republican stream is disgusting, toxic, and offensive. The republican fringe seizing the party has filled it with worse and less palatable ideas than it had before which is why that highjacking is widely recognized as leading to the unfolding destruction of the republican party and republicanism in any non rabid-delusional form.

The Democratic platform is popular because it leads to better economic outcomes combined with better quality of life in a more just society for all Americans. To the left of mainstream Democratic positions are many positions even more popular with the public than the Democratic mainstream because they are good ideas that will make life even better for most Americans at negligible cost to society.

Secessionist treasonous bastards in the Republican Party are glad to see you running to pump the breaks, Banks, especially since their failed election followed by their failed coup has them kicked off the train entirely. It’s comfort to these craven miscreants that you remain onboard to do their work.

Fac you just on keep on sucking his dick and Larry can gum his peas.

And I'll mock the both of you for an inability to honestly deal with transparency.

And both of you can swallow your respective loads together.

We good?

No, we are not good.

Cease and desist.

[josh]

Should Larry re-chew your mushy peas for you as well?

The whole republican platform is unpopular. What is to the right of the main republican stream is disgusting, toxic, and offensive. The republican fringe seizing the party has filled it with worse and less palatable ideas than it had before which is why that highjacking is widely recognized as leading to the unfolding destruction of the republican party and republicanism in any non rabid-delusional form.

The Democratic platform is popular because it leads to better economic outcomes combined with better quality of life in a more just society for all Americans. To the left of mainstream Democratic positions are many positions even more popular with the public than the Democratic mainstream because they are good ideas that will make life even better for most Americans at negligible cost to society.

Secessionist treasonous bastards in the Republican Party are glad to see you running to pump the breaks, Banks, especially since their failed election followed by their failed coup has them kicked off the train entirely. It’s comfort to these craven miscreants that you remain onboard to do their work.

Fac you just on keep on sucking his dick and Larry can gum his peas.

And I'll mock the both of you for an inability to honestly deal with transparency.

And both of you can swallow your respective loads together.

We good?

You are wrong banks and have been for a year.

Let it go.

I proved my point and I don’t see the need to go the route of “Waging battle with facts and reasoned arguments” when you bring neither to this.

You’re not being honest, you’re being a schmeckle.

Drop it. This is mine to deal with now.

[facilitatorn]

Tony, before you get things too busy in Merced, you got to plan for all the washing and drinking and eating that this businesses will generate.

Where are they getting the water?

I think The Who put it best, way back when

http://youtu.be/ZFvQ3bWLQBo *


* This is not a pull quote. It is a link to concert footage.

[LarryBnDC]

Should Larry re-chew your mushy peas for you as well?

The whole republican platform is unpopular. What is to the right of the main republican stream is disgusting, toxic, and offensive. The republican fringe seizing the party has filled it with worse and less palatable ideas than it had before which is why that highjacking is widely recognized as leading to the unfolding destruction of the republican party and republicanism in any non rabid-delusional form.

The Democratic platform is popular because it leads to better economic outcomes combined with better quality of life in a more just society for all Americans. To the left of mainstream Democratic positions are many positions even more popular with the public than the Democratic mainstream because they are good ideas that will make life even better for most Americans at negligible cost to society.

Secessionist treasonous bastards in the Republican Party are glad to see you running to pump the breaks, Banks, especially since their failed election followed by their failed coup has them kicked off the train entirely. It’s comfort to these craven miscreants that you remain onboard to do their work.

Fac you just on keep on sucking his dick and Larry can gum his peas.

And I'll mock the both of you for an inability to honestly deal with transparency.

And both of you can swallow your respective loads together.

We good?

You are wrong banks and have been for a year.

Let it go.

I proved my point and I don’t see the need to go the route of “Waging battle with facts and reasoned arguments” when you bring neither to this.

You’re not being honest, you’re being a schmeckle.

Drop it. This is mine to deal with now.

I’m good.

[LarryBnDC]

This is why white people are abandoning the idea of America. Someone has convinced them that honesty and self awareness are the same as or lead to drinking black spunk.

This kind of problem must begin with a steady diet of lies from authority figures in little league or in the scouts somewhere latter picked up on the television and now in social media.

A sad and serious problem that won’t be easy to address.

Nope. It won’t be easy.

We’re gonna have to move legislation,

Moderate democrats don’t seem to want any progress... unless it preserves their sense of dominance.

[LarryBnDC]

I dropped $50 on Wiley’s campaign last week


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/06/05/ocasio-cortez-nyc-mayor-endorsement/

[josh]

[facilitatorn]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-much-do-americans-really-care-about-bipartisanship/

Numbers don’t lie. It is far better to get things done while bitching about how the other side is killing bipartisanship despite your best efforts. That’s the sweet spot, how you hold the center while moving the whole board.

When you make good popcorn, no one throws it at anyone because it is too good to waste.

[josh]

Georgia GOP censures Raffensberger. They boo Kemp.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/05/politics/brad-raffensperger-brian-kemp-georgia-republican-convention/index.html

Censuring is just silliness. Fake punishment for a non-existent mistake.

[luee]

Trump is using what he learned during his slumlord days. Never give up the ship. So delusional, with followers no less.

[facilitatorn]

It will be interesting to see what happens to those followers’ delusions once the sick crook is locked up.

[josh]

This is a two parter from Helen Cox Richardson

Heather Cox Richardson
June 5, 2021 (Saturday)

Today, Katie Benner of the New York Times broke the story that former president Trump tried to use the Department of Justice to try to overturn the results of the 2020 election. Five emails provided to Congress show Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows, asking the acting attorney general, Jeffrey A. Rosen, in December, to investigate rumors of voter fraud. One of the fantastical stories Meadows wanted investigated was the story that “people in Italy had used military technology and satellites to remotely tamper with voting machines in the United States and switch votes for Mr. Trump to votes for Joseph R. Biden Jr.”

The Department of Justice is not the president’s to command. It is supposed to enforce the laws of the United States and administer justice. The office of the president has its own lawyer—the White House counsel—and the president can also have their own personal representation. That Trump tried to use our own Department of Justice to overturn the will of the American voters is eye-popping.

But that was not the only news of the day. We also learned that the Texas attorney general, Ken Paxton, told Trump advisor Steven Bannon on a public show that had he not been able to block a great deal of mail-in voting in 2020, Biden would have won Texas.

We also learned that Oregon Representative Mike Nearman, who was already in trouble for opening the doors of the Oregon Capitol to anti–coronavirus restriction rioters on December 21, held a meeting beforehand, on December 16, to plot the event. An attendee filmed the talk, which set up “Operation Hall Pass.” That operation ultimately opened the Oregon capitol building to far-right rioters, who endangered the entire legislature. The video, which shows Nearman winking and nodding at setting up the invasion, has raised questions about whether other Republicans worked with insurrectionists in other settings.

[josh]

2nd half of Heather Cox Richardson's column for the 5th of June.

And it provides about as clear a contrast between the current so-called leadership of the GOP and what real leadership is - the then future leadership of the GOP.

It is an odd day for these stories to come to light.

Seventy-seven years ago today, on June 5, 1944, General Dwight D. Eisenhower was preparing to send Allied troops, who fought for democracy, across the English Channel to France. There, he hoped, they would push the German troops, who fought for an authoritarian fascist state, back across Europe, securing a victory for democracy over authoritarianism.

More than 5,000 ships waited to transport more than 150,000 soldiers to France before daybreak the following morning. The fighting to take Normandy would not be easy. The beaches the men would assault were tangled in barbed wire, booby trapped, and defended by German soldiers in concrete bunkers.

On the afternoon of June 5, as the Allied soldiers, their faces darkened with soot and cocoa, milled around waiting to board the ships, Eisenhower went to see the men he was almost certainly sending to their deaths. He joked with the troops, as apparently upbeat as his orders to them had been when he told them Operation Overlord had launched. “The tide has turned!” his letter read. “The free men of the world are marching together to Victory!”

But after cheering his men on, he went back to his headquarters and wrote another letter. Designed to blame himself alone if Operation Overlord failed, it read:

“Our landings in the Cherbourg-Havre area have failed to gain a satisfactory foothold and I have withdrawn the troops. My decision to attack at this time and place was based upon the best information available. The troops, the air and the Navy did all that Bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame or fault attaches to the attempt it is mine alone.”

The letter was, of course, never delivered. Operation Overlord was a success, launching the final assault in which western democracy, defended by ordinary men and women, would destroy European fascism.ize]