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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #180 on: January 22, 2021, 03:56:21 AM »


Yes, it's so terrible that 'half' the world is lining up to migrate here.....any way they can.

Having folks from China and India lined up to move there doesn't mean you don't have a major racism problem, same as you have a domestic violence problem.

The US has racism problem, too, but it doesn't seem to stop folks from wanting to move here.

OTOH, you might want to consider Luee's view but as applies to your country.

For 15 years now, you have had more population growth from immigrants than from residents' births. And while your birth numbers have climbed in that same period from where it was before 2006, that's arising from your immigrant population, too!

Walk thru Sydney CBD and suburbs any day and you could be forgiven for thinking you were in Shanghai or Mumbai.

Thank you for confirming at least one thing the North Koreans said about you.
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« Reply #183 on: January 22, 2021, 05:45:58 AM »


Yes, it's so terrible that 'half' the world is lining up to migrate here.....any way they can.

Having folks from China and India lined up to move there doesn't mean you don't have a major racism problem, same as you have a domestic violence problem.

The US has racism problem, too, but it doesn't seem to stop folks from wanting to move here.

OTOH, you might want to consider Luee's view but as applies to your country.

For 15 years now, you have had more population growth from immigrants than from residents' births. And while your birth numbers have climbed in that same period from where it was before 2006, that's arising from your immigrant population, too!

Walk thru Sydney CBD and suburbs any day and you could be forgiven for thinking you were in Shanghai or Mumbai.

Thank you for confirming at least one thing the North Koreans said about you.

It's true though, massive immigration...to the oh so racist country...lol

North Korea executed two people to stop the spread of Covid, reportedly.
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« Reply #184 on: January 22, 2021, 06:33:47 AM »

However, as outraged as some reactions were to Mr Han's statement - including Liberal MP Dave Sharma joking that it must be "an attempt at irony" - in this case, the hermit nation was not alone.

Canada, China, Germany, Italy, France and Belarus were among dozens of UN countries that also condemned aspects of Australia's human rights record, with many calling for the national age of criminal responsibility to be lifted from 10 to 14.

Australia has also faced UN criticism over the treatment of Indigenous Australians, and of refugees.


Are you claiming that their condemnation and criticism are off-base?!

Yes, a thousand times yes.

You are the poster child for clueless white men.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-21/black-lives-matter-discussion-of-racism-and-privilege-exhausting/12374960

https://humanrights.gov.au/about/news/speeches/racism-exists-australia-are-we-doing-enough-address-it

https://www.economist.com/asia/2020/06/20/racism-in-australia-is-not-just-a-thing-of-the-past

https://thepienews.com/news/aus-report-warns-of-racism-around-covid-19-media-commentary/

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2020/dec/01/the-worst-year-domestic-violence-soars-in-australia-during-covid-19

But that's it, Bambu.

I don't expect facts to change your mind - it has happened twice since I have known you and in the second case, your shift was from one untenable position to another. ("There is no climate change" to "There is always climate change, it cannot possibly be significantly impacted by humans, and there is nothing we can do to mitigate it or its effects.")

Let me know if you ever buy a clue.

I see and know it all.
None of it is the country's fault, the laws against it all are quite clear. There are many programs also.

Nothing that I read in that lot saying anything about "integration", "assimilation"...and "how can people expect to find employment if they can't speak and write English properly"?
"Immigrant ethnic enclaves"...'all' the signs in foreign languages, although the law prohibits it.
Many in the said immigrant ethnic enclaves waving their foreign flags against Australia in sport etc.
Racism? there could be, but would it be any wonder?

We had the 2012 "Muslim Riots" in Sydney...Muslims walking along the city street chanting "Obama, Obama, we love Osama"...all captured on news tape.
Muslims trying to smash their way into the US Consul in Martin place...bashing cops, holding up signs "Behead those who insult the prophet". One mom had her toddler holding up the sign. Someone took a photo, it was in the paper, she was located, questions were asked...got to keep her child, as far as was revealed.
Then the "Cronulla Riots" ...5000 people marched to the beach...protesting at the intimidation etc by certain people, and the bashing of an early teen lifeguard, leaving him with a fractured eye socket.

So, 'white flight' there seems to have been in many areas of Sydney.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #185 on: January 22, 2021, 07:06:47 AM »

Alice Springs, a town in the centre of Australia.


The Australian
 12:00AM February 19, 2011

Destroyed In Alice

Alice Springs is in deeper trouble than is widely understood. For many locals, driven to despair by the township's drug and alcohol-fuelled violence, the only way is out.

IT'S 10pm, the witching hour in the heart of Alice Springs, the time when trouble really starts. KFC has closed its doors, the lights from the 24-hour shop over the crossroads gleam, the cars cruise by with menace, the crowds of bush Aboriginal boys and girls, teenagers and younger, grow thick.

There they are, in the deep shadows of back alleys, parks and vacant blocks, mobiles shining in their hands as they plan their moves, and dodge and weave between the security patrols, the little ineffectual posses of youth workers from different agencies and the police vans drifting up and down the streets.

Here's the action, at the streetlights where Stott and Todd meet: the pick-up point for grog, ganja, adventure, sex and any combination of all these.

What can you see here -- for it is a theatre of a kind, where the tragicomedy of Aboriginal Central Australia is played out each night before the helpless eyes of the authorities?

You can see boys and girls as young as 10 years old marauding about at midnight, with their slightly older brothers and sisters, who are walking at speed, drinking from their hidden alcohol containers: you see cars laden with illegal grog stopping to pick up teenage girls and whisk them off; here's the madam, with her girls for sale, and that's one of the African gang cars, driving by and checking out the talent, and choosing the girls they like.

At the KFC carpark, as if in the front-row stalls, old bush men from the desert communities pull up: "Just looking," they say, and grin, and mingle. Things are tense: a security car pulls into a building site. Seventy teenagers, some with their knife-blades open, converge on the lone guard: he flees.

Police drive slow: "Go home," they call out, "Don't you have a home to go to?", but the crowds just laugh, and melt away and reform in the shadows down the block.
The desert boys wait at the traffic lights: if an incautious couple of backpackers are dumb enough to walk that way, it's harassment, menace, taunts and chase.

A few steps across the council lawns the sandy riverbed stretches, and the drinking camps of the western desert communities: Papunya people, and Kintore families, the dependents of the great desert artists, fighting and shouting abuse at each other all through the night.
Head further in that direction, and you reach the dark suburban street where cars pull up all through the small hours for this is one of the bootleg alcohol outlets that keep the drink flowing long after the plethora of take-away bottle-shops have been obliged to close their doors at 9pm.

Ten bucks for a bottle of cheap white.

At least four such operations run these days in Alice Springs, under the eyes of unknowing police, operated by local Aboriginal purveyors who onsell to fringe camp-dwellers at high markup.
Drift towards the range-line and the Gap, and you find a tree-mantled verge outside the Royal Flying Doctor Service Cafe: its grass is littered with silvered wine-cask linings.

Why? This is the sniffers' secret paradise, the tranquil hide-out where some 30 solvent abusers gather most nights. They spray the contents of underarm deodorants into the cask-skins, and inhale their way into another world, then Alice Springs Town Council workers come in the morning to clean up the evidence.
This in a town, and region, where publicly funded anti-sniffing program managers love to boast of their success. But degradation, desolation and suffering are always a step ahead.

Alice Springs is a township fast spiralling out of control. All the elements for turmoil are present: deep, cold fury among the mainstream population, a reckless gloom among the young bush people loitering here, vast demand for marijuana and a limitless supply, bad, reactive politics, a lack of new ideas, a need for drastic measures and a refusal even to debate the reforms that might have a chance.


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North Korea, Germany, China, France, Spain, Mexico, Portugal, Belarus, Italy, Sweden ETC wouldn't have a clue.
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« Reply #187 on: January 22, 2021, 09:03:14 AM »

Google has been at odds with the Australian government ever since the latter started working on a mandatory code of conduct that would require Facebook, Google and others to pay news outlets for using their content. Now, according to The Sydney Morning Herald, that tech giant would go as far as leaving the country if it’s forced to pay for news. Mel Silva, Google’s managing director in the country, told the Senate at a hearing: “If this version of the code were to become law, it would give us no real choice but to stop making Google Search available in Australia.”

Hmmm...

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEELyxFr7p1GVYyNC7VuFn8cqGAgEKg8IACoHCAowwOjjAjDp3xswicOyAw?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #189 on: January 22, 2021, 09:23:21 AM »

The leak can be fixed. Modern pipelines have been used for over a century.

The leak can be fixed AFTER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF GALLONS have poured into our environment.

In the last decade, pipeline leaks we know about have spilled more than 2,000,000 gallons of oil into our ecosystem - rivers, lakes, aquifers, etc.

Nor have the clean up efforts been inspiring.

We (US and Canada) average more than one leak per day, though I grant many of them are a "mere" 5,000 gallons or so.



Your point that it is "one of the safest ways of transporting materials as compared to road or rail" is both true and asinine. Across land, it is one of THREE ways, the others being truck and rail - so, sure, it is "one of the safest," but that sure isn't saying much.

And your quote that "hence in war, pipelines are often the target of military attacks" is even more asinine than the first. They are targets not because of how safe they are (since clearly if bombing works, they are not that safe), but because they are a stationary target, Luee!

Really? War time target is a reason to support pipelines?!

The problem is not as simple as eliminating pipelines. Why? Because (as of 2018, according to Forbes):
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In the U.S., 100% of our natural gas is shipped by pipeline. 70% of crude oil and petroleum products are shipped by pipeline. 23% of oil shipments are on tankers and barges over water. Trucking only accounts for 4% of shipments, and rail for a mere 3%. In Canada, it’s even more lopsided. Almost all (97%) of natural gas and petroleum products are transported by pipelines (Canadian Energy Pipeline Association).

The question of safety, though, depends on what you are measuring, again from Forbes in 2018:
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So which mode is safer? For oil, the short answer is: truck worse than train worse than pipeline worse than boat (Oilprice.com). But that’s only for human death and property destruction. For the amount of oil spilled per billion-ton-miles, it’s truck worse than pipeline worse than rail worse than boat (Congressional Research Service). Even more different is for environmental impact (dominated by impact to aquatic habitat), where it’s boat worse than pipeline worse than truck worse than rail.

For the environment, only boats are worse than pipelines.

For the amount spilled, only trucks are worse than pipelines.

So, shut the fuck up about "one of the safest," would you please?!




Given how dominant the pipeline is, but how leaky and bad for the environment, we need to do a better job with them and we are just plain not managing it.

We need to maintain them better. We need to route them through less vulnerable places even if it costs more. We need to build them better. And we need to do a better job of cleaning them up.

Finally, companies like Keystone need to be removed from the pipeline business because they have demonstrated a callous disregard for human lives, environment, cleaning up their own messes, and finally the law.

What don't you understand?

Keystone XL should be stopped. Find a different company, a different path, and a better way to build pipelines, until we don't need them. (And include a plan for shutting down and cleaning up the pipelines when either oil runs out or the need for it is over. Don't wait until then for the removal to get figured out. Set aside money to pay for spills and for undoing the pipelines.)


https://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesconca/2018/10/11/which-is-safer-for-transporting-crude-oil-rail-truck-pipeline-or-boat/?sh=33be8bfa7b23

That is the Wikipedia opinion you have a problem with their argument, a hoax perhaps? I just use their research over the non-expert rantings of primitives. Do away with oil drilling rigs, do away with nuke plants, do away with cell phones, do away with gas autos, do away with the internet? Be a bronze age man that's the ticket.
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« Reply #190 on: January 22, 2021, 10:23:41 AM »

Maybe when women are put out of qualifying for state and national teams and the Olympic teams by trans athletes they might sit up and take notice then.
Anyway, women make up their own minds.

Let me know when that happens, Bambu.

Almost 70% of women define a transwoman as a woman.

This issue has a few thorny aspects,  as in contact sports where one could have transwomen (with male skeletons and joints) colliding with cis-females with lighter bones and joints.   There is some research pointing to higher rates of serious injury from this.   So I think that might call for some regulations, especially in boxing,  football,  rugby.   There will be fairness issues,  whatever someone's politics,  and those have to addressed for each sport.   
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« Reply #191 on: January 22, 2021, 10:31:45 AM »

To caricature the alternative energy movement is to show only you are gullible to the myths of science deniers.   Harvesting and storing sun/wind energy creates jobs in multiple industries including sophisticated systems of peak hours storage.   And when your pipelines break,  you just have an interrupted circuit.   You don't spill toxic electrons over the landscape and foul the aquifer that feeds you.   
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« Reply #192 on: January 22, 2021, 11:36:34 AM »

I don't think anyone questions that certain body types gravitate to certain sports (steered by PE teachers in school,  especially) and that someone like Michael Phelps has certain natural gifts in his body proportions that helped him become a champion swimmer.   I think the backlash against trans/non-binary participation is somewhat driven by religious doctrines that one is born male or female.   Science doesn't support the religious view,  as it has found evidence that trans/non-binaries are natural, i. e.  have a genetic predisposition.  But the religious view is quite popular and regards Phelps as having "natural" gifts he cultivated,  whereas TNB identity is seen as not natural.   And that pov is not going away any time soon,  so there will be this tension between secular and religious views for a long time.   

Whatever is worked out in sports leagues,  there will be some reckoning with birth-males who bring testosterone built bones and musculature and mass into female leagues,  when they have transitioned.   And that reckoning will have to reflect the laws of physics as well as laws of society.   Athletics has some valid forms of discrimination -- Fred Astaire doesn't get to be a linebacker,  Dustin Hoffman can't play center,  etc.   So body type will always be somewhere in the picture.   

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« Reply #193 on: January 22, 2021, 11:58:50 AM »


That is the Wikipedia opinion you have a problem with their argument, a hoax perhaps? I just use their research over the non-expert rantings of primitives.

Wikipedia does no research, Luee.

Random people write most of their articles. They provide citations for it, but I could go to that article right now and edit that stupid phrase out.

Even if it were written by an expert (which is possible), it is still a stupid phrase. But even from the page YOU cited, it says:
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Fossil fuels can be transported by pipeline, rail, truck, or ship, though natural gas requires compression or liquification to make vehicle transport economical. For transport of crude oil via these four modes, various reports rank pipelines as proportionately causing less human death and property damage than rail and truck and spilling less oil than truck.

It happens to align with most of what I said - and its source is FORBES, same as mine, but 2014 - four years older than my article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_transport#Accidents_and_dangers

I provided you with solid data. You could try responding to numbers instead of vague assurances.

But here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_spill

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pipeline_and_Hazardous_Materials_Safety_Administration
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Pipeline safety record
In the years 1996-2015, Pipeline and Hazardous Materials Safety Administration (PHMSA) reported a total of 11,199 pipeline incidents[a] in a system that includes a total of 2,509,667 miles (4,038,918 km) of gas pipelines and 208,494 miles (335,539 km) of hazardous liquids pipelines in the United States as of 2015. 856 of those were considered "serious incidents", 86 were serious incidents involving hazardous liquids pipelines.[14] This is an average of approximately 560 incidents per year in the last 20 years for all types of pipelines. These incidents caused a total of 360 fatalities and 1,376 injuries.[14] More recent data however reveals that pipeline incidents as well as the total number of releases has decreased by over 50% since PHMSA was created and pipelines now safely deliver over 99.999% of all shipments, the highest safety percentage of any transportation system.[15]**
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A May 2014 report by the Office of Inspector General for the Department of Transportation[12] found the PHMSA did not ensure "that key state inspectors are properly trained, inspections are being conducted frequently enough and inspections target the most risky pipelines"

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Serious incidents average for the last 3 years is 36. For 20 years, it's 36. (Fatalities and Injuries)
https://portal.phmsa.dot.gov/analytics/saw.dll?Portalpages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPDM%20Public%20Website%2F_portal%2FSC%20Incident%20Trend&Page=Serious

Significant incidents average for the last 3 years is 302. For 20 years, it's 288. IOW, it's gone up, not down. Among the things they list is cost (in constant 1984 dollars):
Total Cost
3 year avg.   $878,626,543
5 year avg.   $680,921,038
10 year avg. $689,127,826
20 year avg. $533,103,595

The 3 year average cost is 65% higher than the 20 year average.

And the 302 is US ONLY, not including Canada.
https://portal.phmsa.dot.gov/analytics/saw.dll?Portalpages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPDM%20Public%20Website%2F_portal%2FSC%20Incident%20Trend&Page=Significant



But wait... those are the select incidents they define as significant and serious!
20 year average for total incidents per year: 615.
  3 year average for total incidents per year: 646

Do you see a decrease, Luee?!

You want to take somebody's opinion rather than "non-expert rantings of primitivs," well this is the citation for the Wikipedia article I linked.

https://portal.phmsa.dot.gov/analytics/saw.dll?Portalpages&PortalPath=%2Fshared%2FPDM%20Public%20Website%2F_portal%2FSC%20Incident%20Trend&Page=All%20Reported

Who's the primitive, Luee?! I don't think it's me, here. Go find a mirror, if you want to cast aspersions.
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« Reply #194 on: January 22, 2021, 12:25:57 PM »

Oil spills are the last thing standing in the way of the Keystone Pipeline extension.
In its many proposed forms over the last 15 years it has been approved by scores of official bodies and commissions.
The real issue is political based on the left’s opposition to fossil fuels in general.

So Joe Biden threw a bone to the progressives so he could deal with other matters, like creating jobs.
Oh wait,  now his cause just got harder since the thousands and thousands of jobs relating to the Keystone project no longer are in play.

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