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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[luee]

The US is the most diverse society in the history of mankind thanks to our wasp founding fathers. What are you  talking about? You should have been born in Chad, Russia, Poland, or Afghanistan. Honduras, Mexico or Chile etc., like your grandparents. Far from perfect but improving.

[kidcarter8]

On the trial and the former president's plans

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/politics/trump-impeachment/index.html

[josh]

The US is the most diverse society in the history of mankind thanks to our wasp founding fathers

You keep saying that.

It continues to not be true.

We are not the most diverse racially, ethnically, or religiously.

But I should learn to stop confusing you with facts.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/us/maria-montessori-academy-black-history-trnd/index.html

The school has reversed their policy of allowing students to opt out of Black History Month curriculum.

[kidcarter8]

The US is the most diverse society in the history of mankind thanks to our wasp founding fathers

You keep saying that.

It continues to not be true.

We are not the most diverse racially, ethnically, or religiously.

But I should learn to stop confusing you with facts.

Thanks for correcting that

Can you give those facts again?

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/09/world/climate-fossil-fuels-pollution-intl-scn/index.html

1 in 5 deaths, globally, come from fossil fuel pollution, according to this story.

[josh]

Response #1:


Data source: Harvard Institute for Economic Research

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/17/5-insights-on-the-racial-tolerance-and-ethnicity-maps-from-an-ethnic-conflict-professor/

This is from about 2002 - the gathered data, that is. The next one is a response to it, when it was republished in 2013.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/05/17/5-insights-on-the-racial-tolerance-and-ethnicity-maps-from-an-ethnic-conflict-professor/

[josh]

Reply #2 (on diversity)
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2013/07/18/the-most-and-least-culturally-diverse-countries-in-the-world/

Looking for a real multicultural experience? Head to Chad in north-central Africa where 8.6 million residents belong to more than 100 ethnic groups or to Togo, home to 37 tribal groups that speak one of 39 languages and share little in the way of a common culture or history.

[josh]

Reply #3 (on Diversity)
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/04/04/u-s-doesnt-rank-high-in-religious-diversity/

[Hamilton Samuels]

I think Josh just put this forum to sleep.

[josh]

#4 reply (on Diversty) and last:
https://www.rickshawtravel.co.uk/blog/global-diversity-index-the-most-diverse-countries-in-the-world/

They discuss both the Harvard and Pew pieces, as well as providing their own rubric and resources.

[Hamilton Samuels]

The Constitution calls for the chief justice to preside over an impeachment trial. By stepping aside, Roberts not only is failing to meet his duty, but his actions bring an air of illegitimacy to the trial. Impeachments are designed to bring the entire government together for a nonpartisan affair. If Trump is convicted, he would be ineligible to hold federal office. Without the presence of the chief justice, and if there is a conviction, Trump can argue the ruling was unconstitutional because the rules according to the Constitution were not followed.


For Roberts to recuse himself flies in the face of the past two-and-a-half centuries of the evolution of the presidency itself because it allows someone who otherwise might be ineligible to become president to try again. As the nation’s chief magistrate, Roberts is doing our republic a disservice.

Trump has hinted at a 2024 run for president. If, as has been reported, he does make another attempt at the presidency despite his conviction, among the first things he could claim is that the conviction was unconstitutional. He is no stranger to labeling facts as fake and, this time, the law could be on his side if he claims the wrong person presided over his impeachment trial...

... Before stepping into his current role, Roberts said it would be his job to enforce the law. By refusing to preside over the impeachment trial he is doing the opposite. 

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/537955-chief-justice-roberts-is-paving-the-way-for-trump-to-claim-his-trial-is

USSCCJ Roberts is an enabler.

[Hamilton Samuels]

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/538019-house-prosecutors-will-use-previously-unseen-video-evidence-of

The nine House Democratic impeachment managers will introduce video evidence in this week’s Senate trial that has not previously been seen, sources close to the Democratic managers’ team said Tuesday.

That revelation came during a call with reporters where senior staff to the House prosecutors laid out their strategy for convincing senators to convict former President Trump for inciting a deadly insurrection at the Capitol on Jan. 6.

“We plan to be succinct and to the point and non-repetitive. The attack happened in plain sight. There is compelling, overwhelming evidence. It's on video and elsewhere,” said one of the senior aides to the managers.


“We plan to fully utilize all the evidence available in all the forums, including evidence that nobody has seen before."

[facilitatorn]

Senator Shelby (R-AL) will not run for re-election.

That makes 4, so far. That is a lot so early in the process.

Grassley? Inhofe? They're next up on the GOP side. Leahy's waiting to see if he can still do a somersault in scuba gear his age in feet underwater. Feinstein probably should step aside, from what I read, while Leahy seems pretty sharp.

5 of the senators up for re-election in 2022 won their last race by less than 2.5%

4 are Democrats

You are quoting results from before being republican meant having America’s least popular social disease.

The four Dems you referenced are not only likely to win their races but also to increase their margins from 2016, carrying house districts for the Dems in their wake.

Having the majority of their elected officials still out of prison before votes are counted in 2022 is the best result republicans can realistically hope for. It’s much better than they deserve.

[kidcarter8]

Thanks for the charts

I figure most people in their minds separate Christians rather than just lump them all together, which might be the perceived discrepancy