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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Hamilton Samuels]

The singular role that the Palestinians play for their "Arab brethren" (now supported by BLM as fellow "oppressed"), is to continue to play perennial victim in order to advance the common desire to remove Israel from the Middle East.

Couple thoughts on that:

The fact that Iran uses Hamas doesn't make ordinary Palestinians at fault for fighting dispossession and oppression.

"Play the victim" implies that Palestinian Arabs are not victimized.  But they are.  Clearly.  Your argument is sort of like saying "When George Floyd stopped breathing, he was just playing the victim."  IOW, your argument is shit. 

Nobody wakes up one morning and says "Hey, I feel pretty badass and mean.  Let's fire some rockets at Israel.  Just to be real dicks!"  Hamas is a result (yes, a bad one) of Israeli oppression and dispossession.  Iran may have supplied the rockets, but Israel's harsh RW policies supplied the rage.

Yet, since your concern is "harsh policies" and "oppression" you, like others here, make no mention of the oppression and harsh policies conducted by the Palestinians towards women and LGBQT.

You also seem to gloss over the how those rockets are launched, from where, and their results.

But, go ahead and join the rest of the cabal and keep on making it seem like Israeli policy towards Hamas and the Palestinians just hatched out of a psychology of irrational hatred, the same way that white supremacy did here and in South Africa .

It did not.

[Hamilton Samuels]

And while we are at it, let's consider that the vast majority of hate crimes in this country do not involve African Americans or Muslim Americans, but are instead directed towards Jewish Americans.

According to 2018 FBI data: Jews were 2.7 times more likely than blacks, 2.2 times more likely than Muslims to be hate crime victims.

Jewish Lives Matter.

 

 

[FlyingVProd]

On the issue of Tourism, the place that everyone asked about when I was in Europe was Hollywood, people around the world love Hollywood. So, we need to clean Hollywood up and we need to make Hollywood nice for the Tourists.

People need to clean Hollywood up, and there needs to be crews washing sidewalks, etc. The Homeless people need to be helped. And there can be sidewalk cafes, and everything.

It will also be good when the subway system in Los Angeles is expanded.

Salute,

Tony V.

[REDSTATEWARD]

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/05/19/five-oregon-counties-vote-to-secede-and-join-idaho

Not the first.

Also...

Not happening. It requires both Oregon's and Idaho's approval, but it also requires congressional approval. And... just imagine what it would start!

Why would Oregon oppose it?

In order to not give into to whiney snowflake assholes who love.democracy and freedom only when it is there side in power?

You might want to research the issue.
Oregon state government is not funded by property taxes and gets very little from corporate taxes.
The rural counties opting to move contribute little in income taxes meaning the average taxpayer in the rest of the state pays $367 more to finance the budget plus about $180 in road taxes.
The rural counties are majority republican so a move would increase the democrat majority in the Oregon Legislature. The only real consequence of losing counties to Idaho is Oregon would look slightly smaller on a map.

[barton]

And while we are at it, let's consider that the vast majority of hate crimes in this country do not involve African Americans or Muslim Americans, but are instead directed towards Jewish Americans.

According to 2018 FBI data: Jews were 2.7 times more likely than blacks, 2.2 times more likely than Muslims to be hate crime victims.

Jewish Lives Matter.

They do.   But raw numbers may need some analysis.   How many Jews are gunned down by police,  compared to BIPoC persons,  where race/ethnic bias in involved?

Hiw many hate crimes, in each group you mention,  involve physical violence and how many involve vandalism,  graffiti,  verbal abuse? 

If 400 members of a synagogue are greeted with a spray painted swastika on the building on Saturday,  and the count of hate crime victims is 400, how does that weigh against a black person who is shot or beaten to death, or left in a wheelchair?   

Also,  Jewish people have been proactive and organized about reporting hate crimes to law enforcement.   Do BIPoC persons match that level of reporting?   

If your stats can reveal,  in more detail,  the types and severity of hate crimes directed towards each group, and which group is more reluctant to file police reports,  it would help in guiding sensible public policy.   

[barton]

But, go ahead and join the rest of the cabal and keep on making it seem like Israeli policy towards Hamas and the Palestinians just hatched out of a psychology of irrational hatred, the same way that white supremacy did here and in South Africa .

It did not.

Just curious.   When is hatred of an entire race or ethnicity ever rational?   

[REDSTATEWARD]

But, go ahead and join the rest of the cabal and keep on making it seem like Israeli policy towards Hamas and the Palestinians just hatched out of a psychology of irrational hatred, the same way that white supremacy did here and in South Africa .

It did not.

Just curious.   When is hatred of an entire race or ethnicity ever rational?

A question better directed to Palestinians.

[FlyingVProd]

On the issue of hate crimes...

When I was a kid in Oregon I used to get beat up because I was from California. The people in Oregon back then did not like Californians. The same with Nevada, a lot of people in Nevada hated Californians.

I suffered from hate crimes, assault and battery, because I was born in California. And the school teachers let it happen.

I had to get tough and fight back. Once you fight back they stop beating you up.

The USA is a hard country to live in sometimes.

We are not always loving and supportive of each other like we should be.

Salute,

Tony V.

[FlyingVProd]

I have always hated bullies, because when I was a kid in Oregon I was beat up by the bullies.

Salute,

Tony V.

[josh]

"One of the few ways to have a true labor shortage in a capitalist economy is for workers to be demanding wages so high that businesses cannot stay afloat while paying those wages. But there is a lot of evidence to suggest that the U.S. economy does not suffer from that problem.

If anything, wages today are historically low. They have been growing slowly for decades for every income group other than the affluent. As a share of gross domestic product, worker compensation is lower than at any point in the second half of the 20th century.

...Corporate profits, on the other hand, have been rising rapidly and now make up a larger share of G.D.P. than in previous decades. As a result, most companies can afford to respond to a growing economy by raising wages and continuing to make profits, albeit perhaps not the unusually generous profits they have been enjoying.

[josh]

How afraid is the GOP of the truth of America's history?

https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/four-states-have-placed-legal-limits-on-how-teachers-can-discuss-race-more-may-follow/2021/05

[facilitatorn]

http://www.vice.com/en/article/3aqdnj/labor-shortage-fight-for-15-minimum-wage

Proof of concept showing once again how stupidly cruel and wrong republicans are in their drive to ruin American work, productivity, and livelihood.

[LarryBnDC]

How afraid is the GOP of the truth of America's history?

https://www.edweek.org/policy-politics/four-states-have-placed-legal-limits-on-how-teachers-can-discuss-race-more-may-follow/2021/05

Ask Uno/Utley

[FlyingVProd]

We need to keep the Trump tariffs on China, until China plays fair and until China buys products from the USA.

I am happy to see that Biden is keeping the Trump tariffs on China.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/politics/china-tariffs-biden-policy/index.html

And we can use the money made from tariffs on China to invest in business loans and redevelopment money, etc, to create jobs in the USA. 

California lost many jobs to China, so we can use money from the tariffs on Chinese imports to invest in creating new jobs in California to replace the jobs that were lost.

We also need to be strong and we need to get a fair trade deal with China, they need to start buying American products. 

Salute,

Tony V.

[LarryBnDC]

Divides between some American Jews and Israel’s right-wing government have been growing for more than a decade, but under the Trump administration those fractures that many hoped would heal became a crevasse. Politics in Israel have also remained fraught, as Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s long-tenured government forged allegiances with Washington. For young people who came of age during the Trump years, political polarization over the issue only deepened.

Many Jews in America remain unreservedly supportive of Israel and its government. Still, the events of recent weeks have left some families struggling to navigate both the crisis abroad and the wide-ranging response from American Jews at home. What is at stake is not just geopolitical, but deeply personal. Fractures are intensifying along lines of age, observance and partisan affiliation.


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/19/us/jews-israel-palestine.html