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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[barton]

What I don't think some neo-cons grasp is that it's less expensive to provide a good education than it is to provide the massive programs that handle the fallout from bad education.   I'm a true fiscal conservative:  good education from preschool to grad school is the way to hand out the LEAST amount of taxpayer money.

When the government made college loans easy to get the universities went to work inventing boutique degrees, doubling administrators, counselors, etc, expanding campuses all of which(and more) inevitably sent tuition skyrocketing.
Many grads could not find real work and then the debt came due.
And now we all curse the day coming when we write more checks to pay for college only this time the taxman will be collecting them.

Normally I cruise past replies devoid of examples or facts that are needed to support vague critiques,  but I'll bite:  define a "boutique degree" please.   

[barton]

Lime, 

Which is worse,  WMGGW on piano,  or "Piano Man, " on guitar?   (or is PM simply worse in any form or context?)

[josh]

https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/555100-samoas-first-female-leader-locked-out-of-swearing-in

Trumpian ripples.

[REDSTATEWARD]

What I don't think some neo-cons grasp is that it's less expensive to provide a good education than it is to provide the massive programs that handle the fallout from bad education.   I'm a true fiscal conservative:  good education from preschool to grad school is the way to hand out the LEAST amount of taxpayer money.

When the government made college loans easy to get the universities went to work inventing boutique degrees, doubling administrators, counselors, etc, expanding campuses all of which(and more) inevitably sent tuition skyrocketing.
Many grads could not find real work and then the debt came due.
And now we all curse the day coming when we write more checks to pay for college only this time the taxman will be collecting them.

Normally I cruise past replies devoid of examples or facts that are needed to support vague critiques,  but I'll bite:  define a "boutique degree" please.

To name a few.
Might be fun but finding a job?
Not so much.

Video game Design
Music Industry Studies
Ethnomusicality
Vineyard Management
Informatics
Rhetoric
Comparative Literature

[facilitatorn]

For someone who majored in shit gibbon with a minor in gargling petroleum byproducts, you were very quick to come up with that list.

[LarryBnDC]

For someone who majored in shit gibbon with a minor in gargling petroleum byproducts, you were very quick to come up with that list.

He’s a shill regurgitating the seditionist talking points.

[LarryBnDC]

https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/555100-samoas-first-female-leader-locked-out-of-swearing-in

Trumpian ripples.

ACHTUNG, BITCHES!

[LarryBnDC]

White supremacists once overturned a duly elected government by force.

The leader of the coup went on to become the governor 


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55648011

[bankshot1]

Red seems upset that higher education can provide more specialized paths and courses that some students want to explore. He belittles such pursuits of knowledge as "boutique" degrees. 

I majored in poli sci, and I couldn't find a job in poli or sci, but I used the skills learned to get jobs in finance, and interesting enough at some "boutique" firms that liked and paid up for boutique skills.

Go figure?

[bambu.]

Hide your car keys!   
Turn your home into a fortress!
Get your guns ready!
The bad people are coming for your car keys!   to steal your car/s.
They'll carjack you in the street or driveway, bash or murder you for the keys if you don't give them the keys.
They'll break into your home looking for the keys.

[barton]

To name a few.
Might be fun but finding a job?
Not so much.

Video game Design
Music Industry Studies
Ethnomusicality
Vineyard Management
Informatics
Rhetoric
Comparative Literature

Informatics experts are in high demand.   As are coders and graphics designers for video gaming.   A friend of mine studied informatics, now has his own biotech company.
Some of the others are academic fields that have been around for centuries, and offer the chance to teach and do research.   Vineyard mgmt is part of agribusiness, and offers well-paying jobs.   The newer fields on the list have seen growth in demand for trained specialists,  which is why universities responded with courses.   

You seem to have cut/pasted again,  and with no idea what you're talking about.

[bankshot1]

Red's an idiot.

From what I gather he pursued Animal Husbandry at State.

He thought he would be allowed to marry a bull.

He couldn't.

But he pursued his dream.

So he dropped out of school and eloped with Elmer. 

[kidcarter8]

https://thehill.com/policy/international/asia-pacific/555100-samoas-first-female-leader-locked-out-of-swearing-in

Trumpian ripples.

ACHTUNG, BITCHES!

Achtung, Baby.

[REDSTATEWARD]

To name a few.
Might be fun but finding a job?
Not so much.

Video game Design
Music Industry Studies
Ethnomusicality
Vineyard Management
Informatics
Rhetoric
Comparative Literature

Informatics experts are in high demand.   As are coders and graphics designers for video gaming.   A friend of mine studied informatics, now has his own biotech company.
Some of the others are academic fields that have been around for centuries, and offer the chance to teach and do research.   Vineyard mgmt is part of agribusiness, and offers well-paying jobs.   The newer fields on the list have seen growth in demand for trained specialists,  which is why universities responded with courses.   

You seem to have cut/pasted again,  and with no idea what you're talking about.

None of those graduates are in high demand.
Not one.
As for cut and pasting, I made a list, albeit a small one, copied it and pasted it.
Sue me.

[REDSTATEWARD]

 Just a year ago



“Sen. Tom Cotton Repeats Fringe Theory of Coronavirus Origins,"
New York Times

"Trump says US investigating whether coronavirus spread
after China lab mishap but cites no evidence,"
USA Today

"New research explores how conservative media misinformation
may have intensified the severity of the pandemic,"
Washington Post

Scientists Debunk theory of Lab Accident for Pandemic Emergence
All Things Considered

Lab Leak A Conspiracy Theory
Politico



Whoops!

The Wall Street Journal this weekend reported researchers at the Wuhan Institute of Virology were hospitalized in November 2019, a month before COVID-19 was first reported in Wuhan, as the researchers were stricken with symptoms that were similar to those experienced by COVID patients.

Dr. Anthony Fauci, the primary source of those year old headlines,
Now says


I think we should continue to investigate what went on in China until we continue to find out to the best of our ability what happened."



Oh.