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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8220 on: June 01, 2021, 10:25:39 AM »

So,  Barton and Bo are both back.   Elba is the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like but...

I like The Third Man allusion.  We haven't found Lime yet.

Boz is doing shrooms in the desert.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8221 on: June 01, 2021, 10:32:49 AM »

Josh

My "day and half" comment was re the recent drama. And this week-end squabble with Larry aside, I've cut way back on my posting in this forum. Speaking as a life-long liberal Dem, I found the pc-ness of the Elba's woke crowd laughable, and I mocked it, but at its core is intolerance and fear of not being woke enough.   

But I'll play by any rules imposed, PG, R or X, I prefer R, just as long as balls and strikes are called fairly.
So, you cave.

Sad.


And the response from that crowd of committed leftists here is to run away and create a safe space for talking about politics.

What? It's politics, not tiddlywinks.

The cabal of left-leaners here prompt two quotes to come to mind. 

"A liberal is a man who leaves the room when the fight begins." ---Heywood Broun (Bye, Larry. Bye, Barton.)

And, "Liberals can understand everything but people who don't understand them."---Lenny Bruce  (Josh, Little Stevie of AZ, the irrelevant Fac, bodidley...)


 These guys have shown that they stand for nothing; they only stand against.

To be fair, the idiots on the right remind me of this quote: "In this world of sin and sorrow, there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican."---H. L. Mencken
 

Moderation for political discussion is an imposed morality. And as Oscar Wilde put it, "Morality is simply the attitude we adopt toward people we personally dislike."


Think about it.

Heal yourself, weaklings.

Put your legs down.

Go indoors and stop sucking your cock in public.

I propose a 1 week ban for this

All in favor?

I propose you go sit on a pine cone.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8222 on: June 01, 2021, 10:36:48 AM »

Achtung, bitches...


”This is not a joke. This is not a myth. This is not a drill. According to a survey last year, a majority of Republicans agreed with the statement: “The traditional American way of life is disappearing so fast that we may have to use force to save it.”

https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/coups-and-rumors-of-coups
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8223 on: June 01, 2021, 11:20:10 AM »

Josh,  why do I have to keep answering verification questions?   And why does the New York Times question require newbies to figure out it has to have a "The" in front of it?   For that matter,  why is this a question people need to know the answer to?   Are all newcomers required to know our site history before they join?   And the verification letter code is extremely hard to read.   

Hi,  Banks.   Newton says hello.   Heh.

I believe the verification question goes away eventually. I have no control over it - and it doesn't keep out the bulk of spam posts, far as I can tell. If it does, I shudder to think of the inundation we would face.

Similarly, no idea on the "The." And yes, the verification is hard to read and when I have had to use it I have struggled.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8224 on: June 01, 2021, 11:32:05 AM »


---The Chinese government is party to the major international agreements regulating biological weapons which prohibit developing, producing, transferring or stockpiling of bacteriological and toxin weapons. The US government has said that it believes China maintained an offensive biological weapons program even after joining the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention in 1984. China refutes this.---

The commies would not lie about accidently starting the covid pandemic?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8225 on: June 01, 2021, 11:32:59 AM »

Average daily deaths from COVID-19 in the US fell to a level last seen in late March of 2020 - ~460/day.

This is not even remotely even across the country, but it is still very good news.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8226 on: June 01, 2021, 12:08:41 PM »

Josh,  why do I have to keep answering verification questions?   And why does the New York Times question require newbies to figure out it has to have a "The" in front of it?   For that matter,  why is this a question people need to know the answer to?   Are all newcomers required to know our site history before they join?   And the verification letter code is extremely hard to read.   

Hi,  Banks.   Newton says hello.   Heh.

Hi Bart-I was pretty certain Molly wasn't one of Hammy's or Red's alter-egos.

Really there's a history entrance exam to gain entry to Elba?

It sounds like we're designed to keep people out and not be inclusive!

This should be thoroughly discussed by the Island's Council of Extremely Woke

LMAO


 

HA!

The agenda is already quite crowded. Maybe they'll get to that by next Tuesday.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8227 on: June 01, 2021, 12:27:10 PM »

The fucking "woke" assholes in the Democratic Party are costing elections:


Good eXample from an AP story explaining the waining strength of the Dems in Iowa:

Democrats lost last year’s election for Iowa’s 2nd Congressional District by the narrowest margin in a House race in almost 40 years. After the six-vote heartbreaker, some expected Democrat Rita Hart to immediately declare a rematch in the southeast district long held by her party.

So far, no Democrat has stepped up to run.

The hesitancy to jump into a district now as competitive as they come is one measure of Democrats’ fatigue in a state viewed for decades as a true battleground. Even as the coronavirus pandemic gradually wanes and President Joe Biden’s job approval remains strong, Iowa Democrats say they can feel their party receding, particularly from the industrial river towns they once claimed as bastions.

“I kind of think we’re past the point of no return,” said Rich Taylor, a former Democratic state senator who lost last year after eight years representing economically struggling Lee County, which hugs the Mississippi River in the state’s southeast corner. “I believe that the people of southeast Iowa will wake up. But I don’t think it’s going to make a difference for the next 20 years.”



It took years to reach this point. For more than a decade, Democrats have watched their ranks in farm communities dwindle. At the same time, their once-dominant strength in the state’s factory towns was undermined by shrinking union power and population loss. Republican Donald Trump’s popularity among the white working class in those areas to some feels like a final blow.

“The big question is: Can we bring it back?” said Matt Pflug, a Democrat on the board of supervisors in Lee County. “I don’t know if we can.”

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Biden’s economic aid could provide Democrats ammunition to campaign in places like this. But it will have to compete with the perception that the party has been taken over by “socialists.”

Tom Courtney, a former state senator and longtime union official, said he thinks more voters than just a decade ago struggle to separate Democrats they know from those who speak nationally for the party. When he sought a comeback campaign last year, his opponents linked him to liberal New York Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders, an independent who ran for president as a Democrat.

“I think there are a large number of people that liked me and my policies, but just didn’t want a Democrat because they didn’t like AOC or didn’t like Bernie Sanders,” Courtney said. “We didn’t fight that national message.”


https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-iowa-health-coronavirus-pandemic-government-and-politics-0a3f95250a6feb5bbc45be2840537e38


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8228 on: June 01, 2021, 12:28:43 PM »

So,  Barton and Bo are both back.   Elba is the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like but...

I like The Third Man allusion.  We haven't found Lime yet.

Boz is doing shrooms in the desert.

Up ahead, he sees a shimmering light...
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8229 on: June 01, 2021, 12:34:08 PM »


---The Chinese government is party to the major international agreements regulating biological weapons which prohibit developing, producing, transferring or stockpiling of bacteriological and toxin weapons. The US government has said that it believes China maintained an offensive biological weapons program even after joining the Biological and Toxin Weapons Convention in 1984. China refutes this.---

The commies would not lie about accidently starting the covid pandemic?

Of course they would!

Doesn’t change the colossal clusterfuck of a response of the previous administration once it hit our shores.

I’d lay money there’ll be findings of criminal negligence on the part of Trump administration

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8230 on: June 01, 2021, 12:34:28 PM »

So,  Barton and Bo are both back.   Elba is the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like but...

I like The Third Man allusion.  We haven't found Lime yet.

Boz is doing shrooms in the desert.

Up ahead, he sees a shimmering light...


"We are all just prisoners here, of our own device."
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8231 on: June 01, 2021, 12:36:54 PM »

Josh,  why do I have to keep answering verification questions?   And why does the New York Times question require newbies to figure out it has to have a "The" in front of it?   For that matter,  why is this a question people need to know the answer to?   Are all newcomers required to know our site history before they join?   And the verification letter code is extremely hard to read.   

Hi,  Banks.   Newton says hello.   Heh.

Hi Bart-I was pretty certain Molly wasn't one of Hammy's or Red's alter-egos.

Really there's a history entrance exam to gain entry to Elba?

It sounds like we're designed to keep people out and not be inclusive!

This should be thoroughly discussed by the Island's Council of Extremely Woke

LMAO


 

HA!

The agenda is already quite crowded. Maybe they'll get to that by next Tuesday.

I doubt a request to have new members find their way in (without having to know what happened sixteen years ago) makes anyone woke.  I remain an Independent, fiscal conservative, and iconoclast beholden to no party or platform. 

Since "woke" seems to now be a vague slur that has no real agreed meaning, I will only say that I think skewing Left in states like Iowa probably is counterproductive if the Democratic Party is seeking to expand its influence there.  That said, I see no wrong in being awakened to genuine areas of social injustice and realizing you want to speak out against them.  Those are real issues that deserve genuine discussion on their logic and evidence, and not on single-word smears like "woke," which seem to be the easy recourse of lazy minds.  Like "social justice warrior," rather than just post wiki entries, it might be more fruitful to state in clear terms where you believe the pursuit of social justice is mistaken or wrong.  As the hard-to-find HAIRY LIME has pointed out, what is wrong with fighting for social justice? 

Did I just see a cat run into the shadowed doorway?

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8232 on: June 01, 2021, 12:42:21 PM »

"It's basically a song about the dark underbelly of the American dream and about excess in America, which is something we knew a lot about."[44] In the 2013 documentary, History of the Eagles, Henley reiterated:

On just about every album we made, there was some kind of commentary on the music business, and on American culture in general. The hotel itself could be taken as a metaphor not only for the myth-making of Southern California, but for the myth-making that is the American Dream, because it is a fine line between the American Dream, and the American nightmare.[45]

In a 2009 interview, The Plain Dealer music critic John Soeder asked Henley if he regretted writing the lines "So I called up the captain / 'Please bring me my wine' / He said, 'We haven't had that spirit here since 1969'" because wines are fermented while spirits are distilled. Henley responded:

Thanks for the tutorial and, no, you're not the first to bring this to my attention — and you're not the first to completely misinterpret the lyric and miss the metaphor. Believe me, I've consumed enough alcoholic beverages in my time to know how they are made and what the proper nomenclature is. But that line in the song has little or nothing to do with alcoholic beverages. It's a sociopolitical statement. My only regret would be having to explain it in detail to you, which would defeat the purpose of using literary devices in songwriting and lower the discussion to some silly and irrelevant argument about chemical processes.[41]


Yeah, so, I'd say the song fits in here, as we have a lot of "myth-making" regarding who each of us is, and we definitely lost the spirit of the Elba Forum, lost the dream, and replaced it with the nightmare for so many.



 
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8233 on: June 01, 2021, 12:50:05 PM »


 Bart do you know how Elba got its name?

Who is Bart?  I'm just another person who happened to live in Newton.  I once stepped on Isaac Asimov's foot at the Unitarian Church in West Newton.  Truth.  I consumed frappes, and put jimmies on my ice cream.  Many dinners at the top of the Pru.  I once dropped a dinner fork and killed Kevin White's second cousin at street level.  Ah, youthful folly!

And, yes, of freaking course I know.  I was a member of the NYT forums from around 1998 on.  Into exile we all went in the early oughts, and this island was one of the places of refuge.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #8234 on: June 01, 2021, 12:55:17 PM »


 Bart do you know how Elba got its name?

Who is Bart?  I'm just another person who happened to live in Newton.  I once stepped on Isaac Asimov's foot at the Unitarian Church in West Newton.  Truth.  I consumed frappes, and put jimmies on my ice cream.  Many dinners at the top of the Pru.  I once dropped a dinner fork and killed Kevin White's second cousin at street level.  Ah, youthful folly!

And, yes, of freaking course I know.  I was a member of the NYT forums from around 1998 on.  Into exile we all went in the early oughts, and this island was one of the places of refuge.

Nope that's not quite right Holly

"Escape from Elba"

This place isn't Elba. Nor was the NYT Forum.

In context, what does Elba refer to?
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