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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Holly Martins]

 Supermajority rule “contradicts the fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail….  a poison …one of those refinements which, in practice, has an effect the reverse of what is expected from it in theory…[It] substitutes the pleasure, caprice, or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junto, to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority.”

                           Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 22, December 14, 1787


https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2021/04/07/the_founding_fathers_rejected_filibusters_771612.html

Funny how the filibuster did not stop such landmark legislation like Civil Rights and Voting Rights in the face of bitter democrat resistance.

A dead cow on the highway may not prevent me from driving to Sioux Falls.   That doesn't mean that it's a positive benefit to the highway. 

[Holly Martins]

They rejected them, but not only did not forbid such rules from being put in place, but subscribed to them a part of the time, themselves, while debating independence together.

Yes, Hamilton had the real world evidence from 8 years of supermajority rule in the Articles of Confederation.   The RCP article points that out,  which I was glad to learn - my knowledge of the early years is pretty spotty.

[Holly Martins]

Will they buy food and clothing or the latest iphone?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/14/politics/child-tax-credit-payments-explainer/index.html

Racism Translator

Brown people don't know what to do with money

[LarryBnDC]

14 stacked quote boxes?   Only need to quote the part of a previous post you're replying to - we have scroll buttons,  if we need to see the entire chat history.   

And yes,  the old "these two people are alike in this way,  ergo they are alike in other ways" is garbage logic.    REL and MLK were both bipeds...


Supermajority rule “contradicts the fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail….  a poison …one of those refinements which, in practice, has an effect the reverse of what is expected from it in theory…[It] substitutes the pleasure, caprice, or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junto, to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority.”

                           Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 22, December 14, 1787


Writing 234 years ago, Alexander Hamilton cast supermajority rule as a poison causing a foreboding “weakness” in democracy — presciently describing America’s plight today.   

https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2021/04/07/the_founding_fathers_rejected_filibusters_771612.html

Funny how the filibuster did not stop such landmark legislation like Civil Rights and Voting Rights in the face of bitter democrat resistance.

You should sue your school district.

[LarryBnDC]

Will they buy food and clothing or the latest iphone?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/14/politics/child-tax-credit-payments-explainer/index.html

It’s none of your fucking business.

[REDSTATEWARD]

 Supermajority rule “contradicts the fundamental maxim of republican government, which requires that the sense of the majority should prevail….  a poison …one of those refinements which, in practice, has an effect the reverse of what is expected from it in theory…[It] substitutes the pleasure, caprice, or artifices of an insignificant, turbulent, or corrupt junto, to the regular deliberations and decisions of a respectable majority.”

                           Alexander Hamilton, Federalist 22, December 14, 1787


https://www.realclearpolicy.com/articles/2021/04/07/the_founding_fathers_rejected_filibusters_771612.html

Funny how the filibuster did not stop such landmark legislation like Civil Rights and Voting Rights in the face of bitter democrat resistance.

A dead cow on the highway may not prevent me from driving to Sioux Falls.   That doesn't mean that it's a positive benefit to the highway.

LOL!

[LarryBnDC]

Y’all (and you know who I mean) still want to laugh at “Achtung, bitches?”

“Milley described “a stomach-churning” feeling as he listened to Trump’s untrue complaints of election fraud, drawing a comparison to the 1933 attack on Germany’s parliament building that Hitler used as a pretext to establish a Nazi dictatorship.

“This is a Reichstag moment,” Milley told aides, according to the book. “The gospel of the Führer.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joint-chiefs-chairman-feared-potential-reichstag-moment-aimed-at-keeping-trump-in-power/2021/07/14/a326f5fe-e4ec-11eb-a41e-c8442c213fa8_story.html

[Yankguy1]

Y’all (and you know who I mean) still want to laugh at “Achtung, bitches?”

“Milley described “a stomach-churning” feeling as he listened to Trump’s untrue complaints of election fraud, drawing a comparison to the 1933 attack on Germany’s parliament building that Hitler used as a pretext to establish a Nazi dictatorship.

“This is a Reichstag moment,” Milley told aides, according to the book. “The gospel of the Führer.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joint-chiefs-chairman-feared-potential-reichstag-moment-aimed-at-keeping-trump-in-power/2021/07/14/a326f5fe-e4ec-11eb-a41e-c8442c213fa8_story.html

I fail to see how this is more important than the ratings for Fox News or CNN. 

[josh]

Y’all (and you know who I mean) still want to laugh at “Achtung, bitches?”

“Milley described “a stomach-churning” feeling as he listened to Trump’s untrue complaints of election fraud, drawing a comparison to the 1933 attack on Germany’s parliament building that Hitler used as a pretext to establish a Nazi dictatorship.

“This is a Reichstag moment,” Milley told aides, according to the book. “The gospel of the Führer.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/joint-chiefs-chairman-feared-potential-reichstag-moment-aimed-at-keeping-trump-in-power/2021/07/14/a326f5fe-e4ec-11eb-a41e-c8442c213fa8_story.html

I fail to see how this is more important than the ratings for Fox News or CNN.

Or the All Star Game.

[REDSTATEWARD]

BLM ‘s statement blaming the Cuban Government’s hatred of its own people on the 1962 US Embargo(still in effect) will be the defining blow to its credibility.( what little if any it ever had).

Even the Cuban President accepted blame for his government and Joe Biden’s endorsement of the Cuban citizens (tepid as it was) endorses their fight for Freedom.

More telling was the lack of a reaction from the “Squad” (the hate America first group).


https://www.instagram.com/p/CRU5kYYp-UU/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=da6cc404-ef7a-4aac-8155-43c285c192e7&ig_mid=A4EF1788-6E50-432E-BA9E-D7A20A1F5F68

[josh]

I happen to totally agree with the first image.

I think the second and third have a mix of truth and untruth, plus some basic failure to understand (or perhaps accept) that the actions of the people now are less about our embargo and more about their mistreatment by their government and that that mistreatment would not have been better without the embargo. (This is not to say that the lives of the citizenry might not have been better - it would have, almost certainly.)

[Holly Martins]

Red's been chewing shrooms on the grassy knoll again...

[Hamilton Samuels]

Will they buy food and clothing or the latest iphone?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/14/politics/child-tax-credit-payments-explainer/index.html

Racism Translator

Brown people don't know what to do with money

Oh?

Really? Is the money going only to brown people, dumbfuck? Who the fuck injected race into the conversation? YOU!

Go fuck your highway cow, you simple shit.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Will they buy food and clothing or the latest iphone?

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/14/politics/child-tax-credit-payments-explainer/index.html

It’s none of your fucking business.

FUN stuff, Larry.

But YOU'RE WRONG, as usual.

It was none of our business whether these folks decided to have children.

If they can't afford them, why does it fall on the rest of us to prop them up?

Part of OUR business, is how the government spends OUR tax money. So, it is my business, and yours, as to whether the cash actually lands where it was intended to land.

[bankshot1]

Red's an old hippie.

I get that vibe.


Speaking of old hippies, here one on Donald and his Russian comrade, Vlad.

Don't know if its been posted yet.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house


Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.