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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Holly Martins]

https://www.foxnews.com/us/desantis-executive-masks-optional-schools


"The federal government has no right to tell parents that in order for their kids to attend school in person, they must be forced to wear a mask all day, every day," DeSantis said in a Friday statement. "Many Florida schoolchildren have suffered under forced masking policies, and it is prudent to protect the ability of parents to make decisions regarding the wearing of masks by their children."

In related news,  Floridians are quite upset at laws forcing their children to obey stop signs and red lights.   "Choosing to obey traffic laws is a personal choice that must be protected," said DeSantis.   "The Constitutional right to step in front of a moving bus, or to drive said bus through a red light when you feel like it,   is something that we are prudent to protect."

[REDSTATEWARD]

Regarding the CDC walk back.

One can hope that someone with a brain in that bureaucracy finally figured out the folly of trying to endorse a mandate for an experimental vaccine would unleash a huge blowback from Americans.


Moderator: Ward, this is a warning. Next time you spread more lies about the vaccines you will be given a 5 day time out. The time after that will be longer. The one after that will be a banning.

[Holly Martins]

Messenger RNA vaccines have been in development for thirty years,  since Kat Kariko came from Hungary with the idea.   They are not "experimental" - a term that falsely suggests we are guinea pigs.   That's what the clinical trials were for,  and they passed with flying colors.   And the point of using RNA is that it means you can move new forms of the vaccine,  for new variants of a virus, through all stages of development much faster.  PLEASE allow yourself to learn from professionals in the field and not infotainment celebs or fringe conspiracists.   If we had responsible media,  with trained science reporters,  there would be no blowback. 

[josh]

Messenger RNA vaccines have been in development for thirty years,  since Kat Kariko came from Hungary with the idea.   They are not "experimental" - a term that falsely suggests we are guinea pigs.   That's what the clinical trials were for,  and they passed with flying colors.   And the point of using RNA is that it means you can move new forms of the vaccine,  for new variants of a virus, through all stages of development much faster.  PLEASE allow yourself to learn from professionals in the field and not infotainment celebs or fringe conspiracists.   If we had responsible media,  with trained science reporters,  there would be no blowback.

If we had only responsible media,  with trained science reporters,  there would be no blowback.

Bullshit like Ward's would still exist, but it would spread less easily.

Ward supported the use of "experimental" cures and gave them no pushback under Trump.

Each of these vaccines in use in the US have been tested more thoroughly than all the cures combined.

But why let facts get in the way of reality.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Regarding the CDC walk back.

One can hope that someone with a brain in that bureaucracy finally figured out the folly of trying to endorse a mandate for an experimental vaccine would unleash a huge blowback from Americans.


Moderator: Ward, this is a warning. Next time you spread more lies about the vaccines you will be given a 5 day time out. The time after that will be longer. The one after that will be a banning.

What lie did I spread?

[facilitatorn]

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/health/article/Houston-pediatrician-warns-parents-to-take-COVID-16347102.php

Houston pediatrician warns parents to take COVID 'very seriously' with children's hospitals full


Another state with children's hospitals full.

Damned media, making a big deal out of...

this big deal!

Pay site

“ We’ve had a huge surge in hospitalizations of babies and toddlers in particular with RSV infections — RSV pneumonia, with respiratory distress and respiratory failure — requiring intensive care stays.

And now we’re also starting to see an uptick — absolutely an uptick — in COVID-19 infections in children.”

[REDSTATEWARD]

Messenger RNA vaccines have been in development for thirty years,  since Kat Kariko came from Hungary with the idea.   They are not "experimental" - a term that falsely suggests we are guinea pigs.   That's what the clinical trials were for,  and they passed with flying colors.   And the point of using RNA is that it means you can move new forms of the vaccine,  for new variants of a virus, through all stages of development much faster.  PLEASE allow yourself to learn from professionals in the field and not infotainment celebs or fringe conspiracists.   If we had responsible media,  with trained science reporters,  there would be no blowback.

If we had only responsible media,  with trained science reporters,  there would be no blowback.

Bullshit like Ward's would still exist, but it would spread less easily.

Ward supported the use of "experimental" cures and gave them no pushback under Trump.

Each of these vaccines in use in the US have been tested more thoroughly than all the cures combined.

But why let facts get in the way of reality.

The FDA has authorized the emergency use of the Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine to prevent COVID-19 in individuals 18 years of age and older under an Emergency Use Authorization (EUA).Jun 24, 202

An FDA official told CNN on Wednesday that the agency continues to work as fast as possible to review the applications. The official noted that as part of the emergency use authorization granted last year, the vaccines have already undergone a "thorough scientific evaluation" in order to "meet FDA's rigorous standards for safety, effectiveness, and manufacturing quality."

Still, federal medical officials and business leaders agree that full FDA approval would be helpful in the fight against vaccine hesitancy and would support companies eager to issue vaccine mandates to employees returning to the office. But the Biden administration has remained cautious on the issue and does not want the massive step of full approval to carry a political taint. A federal official told CNN this week that the White House is not pressuring the FDA to speed full approval of coronavirus vaccines.

ABC News

[LarryBnDC]

“A federal official told CNN this week that the White House is not pressuring the FDA to speed full approval of coronavirus vaccines.”





Ethics... what a concept.

[facilitatorn]

It’s thanks to dupes like Red spreading regurgitated disinformation that the very last generation of republicans has already been born and is well into the process of dying off. The question remains how wide the circle of collateral damage from their preening self-immolation will be.

They burn like a Tesla battery in their last hours, these Christian-ish white nationalists.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/7/31/2043084/-Testing-the-Georgia-Voter-ID-Law-Results-of-Attempt-to-Obtain-Voter-ID-Cards-from-a-GA-Registrar

Keep knocking and keep marching.

[josh]

"We're not in the business of governing," declared Kevin McCarthy, by his actions. "It's about party politics, so we're going to block other things from getting done, not just the ones related to the Jan 6 Commission."

(He did not mouth those words. He didn't have to.)

Shortly after he was appointed to serve as chair of the select committee on Economic Disparity and Fairness in Growth, Himes found out that none of the Republicans initially announced to serve with Democrats on the committee would be joining. Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy had retracted his selections to the key select committee on the economy because he was still upset that House Speaker Nancy Pelosi rejected two of his picks for a much more contentious select committee: the one investigating the January 6 riot.

[kidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/31/us/new-orleans-covid-19-surge/index.html


Just 32% of the population of Caddo Parrish in Louisiana are vaccinated

What?  Are they all conservative white Republicans or something...?

They're in the top third of Louisiana and doing better than the state as a whole. Since all you did was pick the one parish that they mentioned that went for Biden and did no research beyond that, you missed that 3 other parishes that voted for Biden and are doing even worse than Caddo in vaccinations.

But you made me curious, so I pulled out those that voted for Biden (and Clinton) from those that voted for Trump (both times) and looked at the numbers.

Total Trump voting parishes population:3449980
One Shot Trump: 1315428   
Two Shot Trump:1158770

One Shot Trump percentage: 38.13%
Two Shot Trump percentage: 33.59%

Total Biden voting parishes population: 1,213,636
One Shot Biden: 570,569
Two Shot Biden: 510,037

One Shot Biden percentage: 47.01
Two Shot Biden percentage: 42.03

At a guess, looking at Louisiana's parishes, I suspect that one of the compounding factors is distance from medical facilities - Bossier, right next to Caddo and with a similar shape, is a bit worse and Cameron Parish, with a similar shape to Caddo's, is substantially worse and has a similar length to it. A few of the other geographically large parishes seem to, as well.

I'd be interested in poverty levels in those areas as well. And yes, other population demographics.

But overall, Kid, Louisiana is just more evidence of the national trend you don't like: Trump voters are far less likely to have gotten vaccinated than Biden voters, and their minor children, as well.

I didn't know Caddo went for Biden

[kidcarter8]

Regarding the CDC walk back.

One can hope that someone with a brain in that bureaucracy finally figured out the folly of trying to endorse a mandate for an experimental vaccine would unleash a huge blowback from Americans.


Moderator: Ward, this is a warning. Next time you spread more lies about the vaccines you will be given a 5 day time out. The time after that will be longer. The one after that will be a banning.

What lie did I spread?

Heh.

[bambu.]

Broadway has re-opened...if you've been fully vaccinated and wear a mask.
Good.
There are protests.
The unmasked and unvaccinated seem to think they should just be able to wander wherever they want whenever they want.
They should be prevented from doing so.

[facilitatorn]

Send them all to Florida. Let God sort them out.