Total Members Voted: 11
Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM
Quote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:24:19 AMQuote from: josh on August 07, 2021, 10:15:50 AMQuote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:10:15 AMNavigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)The key is to remember that what is unconstitutional or not is subject to the whims of the appointed justices, which is why we get some major reversals along the way.SCOTUS is not infallible.Neither were the Founding Fathers.So, what's constitutional today may be unconstitutional tomorrow, according to the primary body that gets a vote.Is imposing a national voter ID unconstitutional?Is imposing a ban on voter ID nationally unconstitutional?YKMV.Wouldn't the supremacy clause (article VI) allow a federal law on fair voting procedures in states? Especially where election to a federal office is concerned. The Constitution has already delegated that responsibility to the states.It also prevents states from discriminating against voters based on sex or the color of their skin.It has also been interpreted by SCOTUS that one man/one vote shall apply to state legislatures.Decisions regarding ID cards, etc. are solely the business of the states.
Quote from: josh on August 07, 2021, 10:15:50 AMQuote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:10:15 AMNavigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)The key is to remember that what is unconstitutional or not is subject to the whims of the appointed justices, which is why we get some major reversals along the way.SCOTUS is not infallible.Neither were the Founding Fathers.So, what's constitutional today may be unconstitutional tomorrow, according to the primary body that gets a vote.Is imposing a national voter ID unconstitutional?Is imposing a ban on voter ID nationally unconstitutional?YKMV.Wouldn't the supremacy clause (article VI) allow a federal law on fair voting procedures in states? Especially where election to a federal office is concerned.
Quote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:10:15 AMNavigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)The key is to remember that what is unconstitutional or not is subject to the whims of the appointed justices, which is why we get some major reversals along the way.SCOTUS is not infallible.Neither were the Founding Fathers.So, what's constitutional today may be unconstitutional tomorrow, according to the primary body that gets a vote.Is imposing a national voter ID unconstitutional?Is imposing a ban on voter ID nationally unconstitutional?YKMV.
Navigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on August 07, 2021, 12:28:06 PMQuote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:24:19 AMQuote from: josh on August 07, 2021, 10:15:50 AMQuote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:10:15 AMNavigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)The key is to remember that what is unconstitutional or not is subject to the whims of the appointed justices, which is why we get some major reversals along the way.SCOTUS is not infallible.Neither were the Founding Fathers.So, what's constitutional today may be unconstitutional tomorrow, according to the primary body that gets a vote.Is imposing a national voter ID unconstitutional?Is imposing a ban on voter ID nationally unconstitutional?YKMV.Wouldn't the supremacy clause (article VI) allow a federal law on fair voting procedures in states? Especially where election to a federal office is concerned. The Constitution has already delegated that responsibility to the states.It also prevents states from discriminating against voters based on sex or the color of their skin.It has also been interpreted by SCOTUS that one man/one vote shall apply to state legislatures.Decisions regarding ID cards, etc. are solely the business of the states. ....Unless such laws impact Constitutionally protected classes. Which is why, until Shelby v Holder, preclearance was enforced.
There's a reason why virtually all voting laws, post Shelby, were enacted by Republicans and resulted in reduced voter turnout in communities of color.
Over 1000 polling stations were lost.
Quote from: Hamilton Samuels on August 06, 2021, 10:36:11 PMQuote from: kidcarter8 on August 06, 2021, 09:39:36 PMQuote from: Hamilton Samuels on August 06, 2021, 11:01:58 AMQuote from: kidcarter8 on August 06, 2021, 10:54:08 AMSo, so sad.https://www.https//nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Comments section is interesting. Folks have had enough. Civil War II cannot be too far away.Link doesn't work, kid. Repost, please.https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Thanks. Too bad Bartoon wasn't driving.Wow. You know that your meds don't work if you insert them in your rectum, right? "Orally" means through your mouth, not your anus. Though I can understand the difficulty you'd have distinguishing them.
Quote from: kidcarter8 on August 06, 2021, 09:39:36 PMQuote from: Hamilton Samuels on August 06, 2021, 11:01:58 AMQuote from: kidcarter8 on August 06, 2021, 10:54:08 AMSo, so sad.https://www.https//nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Comments section is interesting. Folks have had enough. Civil War II cannot be too far away.Link doesn't work, kid. Repost, please.https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Thanks. Too bad Bartoon wasn't driving.
Quote from: Hamilton Samuels on August 06, 2021, 11:01:58 AMQuote from: kidcarter8 on August 06, 2021, 10:54:08 AMSo, so sad.https://www.https//nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Comments section is interesting. Folks have had enough. Civil War II cannot be too far away.Link doesn't work, kid. Repost, please.https://nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/
Quote from: kidcarter8 on August 06, 2021, 10:54:08 AMSo, so sad.https://www.https//nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Comments section is interesting. Folks have had enough. Civil War II cannot be too far away.Link doesn't work, kid. Repost, please.
So, so sad.https://www.https//nypost.com/2021/07/07/baseball-coach-shot-dead-driving-after-possible-road-rage-incident/Comments section is interesting. Folks have had enough. Civil War II cannot be too far away.
Quote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:10:15 AMNavigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)I never knew Harry studied cement.
Quote from: REDSTATEWARD on August 07, 2021, 12:55:01 PMQuote from: Barton3.0 on August 07, 2021, 10:10:15 AMNavigating The Argument Room this morning, a simple question arose: whose opinion on the Constitution has more weight, the guy who went to law school or the guy who went to cement school? (it would be a logic fallacy to say either is sure to be right, but professional training does matter, which is why we don't call cement makers when we're in legal trouble)(unless we're Tony Soprano maybe)I never knew Harry studied cement.No, that was your psychoanalyst.
What do both Republicans and Michael Jackson like to do on a guitar? Fingering A Minor.
Quote from: Oilcan on August 07, 2021, 12:27:39 PMWhat do both Republicans and Michael Jackson like to do on a guitar? Fingering A Minor. Might want to check the news about that “ up and coming” democrat State Sen. Tony Navarrete, 35, in Arizona who has been charged with sexually abusing a boy for years and attempting to abuse another. I think he is a much better fit for your joke.