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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[josh]

Motherfucking ‘Moderate’ Democrats... determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The threat, outlined in a letter provided to CNN, could put Pelosi's plans in jeopardy to advance the budget resolution later this month since she can only afford to lose three votes from her caucus in the chamber that they narrowly control.

"We will not consider voting for a budget resolution until the bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act passes the House and is signed into law," the letter to Pelosi said.
Approving the budget resolution is essential to enacting President Joe Biden's agenda. The resolution, which the Senate also approved this week, must be adopted by the House before both chambers are allowed to advance a sweeping economic package worth $3.5 trillion through a process that can be approved along straight party lines since it cannot be filibustered in the Senate”.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/politics/house-moderate-democrats-infrastructure-strategy/index.html

"Some have suggested that we hold off on considering the Senate infrastructure bill for months -- until the reconciliation process is completed. We disagree," the group says, referring to the process used to advance the $3.5 trillion package. "With the livelihoods of hardworking American families at stake, we simply can't afford months of unnecessary delays and risk squandering this once-in-a-century, bipartisan infrastructure package."

A very reasonable stance, IMO.

Unless you're going to throw another adolescent snit.

Strategically... it's a stupid move.

No, it's not. It's forcing the issue. YOU know how that works.

Yes, that's why strategically it's a stupid move.  It is working against their own constituents to force an issue one way instead of working for their constituents to force the issue the other way.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Motherfucking ‘Moderate’ Democrats... determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The threat, outlined in a letter provided to CNN, could put Pelosi's plans in jeopardy to advance the budget resolution later this month since she can only afford to lose three votes from her caucus in the chamber that they narrowly control.

"We will not consider voting for a budget resolution until the bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act passes the House and is signed into law," the letter to Pelosi said.
Approving the budget resolution is essential to enacting President Joe Biden's agenda. The resolution, which the Senate also approved this week, must be adopted by the House before both chambers are allowed to advance a sweeping economic package worth $3.5 trillion through a process that can be approved along straight party lines since it cannot be filibustered in the Senate”.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/politics/house-moderate-democrats-infrastructure-strategy/index.html

"Some have suggested that we hold off on considering the Senate infrastructure bill for months -- until the reconciliation process is completed. We disagree," the group says, referring to the process used to advance the $3.5 trillion package. "With the livelihoods of hardworking American families at stake, we simply can't afford months of unnecessary delays and risk squandering this once-in-a-century, bipartisan infrastructure package."

A very reasonable stance, IMO.

Unless you're going to throw another adolescent snit.

Strategically... it's a stupid move.

No, it's not. It's forcing the issue. YOU know how that works.

Yes, that's why strategically it's a stupid move.  It is working against their own constituents to force an issue one way instead of working for their constituents to force the issue the other way.

You should familarize yourself with the term "constituents". If you do't get re-elected, you don't have "constituents".

[Holly Martins]

I have not had time to watch this, or work around the WaPo pay wall to read her oped, but it is.my fervent hope she found a way to blame DeSantis's Cult of Death prohibiting masks in schools to his vanity.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo118421061727

Took me a sec to catch the "vanity" reference.   Ha!  The Post op-ed mainly skewers De Santis for undermining public health to score political points,  which one could construe as a sort of vanity.   

[Hairy Lime]

I have not had time to watch this, or work around the WaPo pay wall to read her oped, but it is.my fervent hope she found a way to blame DeSantis's Cult of Death prohibiting masks in schools to his vanity.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp-video/mmvo118421061727

Took me a sec to catch the "vanity" reference.   Ha!  The Post op-ed mainly skewers De Santis for undermining public health to score political points,  which one could construe as a sort of vanity.

The anticipation of having the time to view the video is making me late. It's keeping me waiting.

[Hairy Lime]

Good idea. Maybe kids will be allowed to concentrate on learning to read, write, and think and act both critically and independently: https://news.yahoo.com/oregon-school-board-votes-ban-133410225.html

The ban is on all political messaging. But it is clearly designed to cancel BLM. That the board, and you, find it necessary to act in order to cancel views you do not agree with and find disturbing to your racist views is telling.

[josh]

Motherfucking ‘Moderate’ Democrats... determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

The threat, outlined in a letter provided to CNN, could put Pelosi's plans in jeopardy to advance the budget resolution later this month since she can only afford to lose three votes from her caucus in the chamber that they narrowly control.

"We will not consider voting for a budget resolution until the bipartisan Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act passes the House and is signed into law," the letter to Pelosi said.
Approving the budget resolution is essential to enacting President Joe Biden's agenda. The resolution, which the Senate also approved this week, must be adopted by the House before both chambers are allowed to advance a sweeping economic package worth $3.5 trillion through a process that can be approved along straight party lines since it cannot be filibustered in the Senate”.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/08/13/politics/house-moderate-democrats-infrastructure-strategy/index.html

"Some have suggested that we hold off on considering the Senate infrastructure bill for months -- until the reconciliation process is completed. We disagree," the group says, referring to the process used to advance the $3.5 trillion package. "With the livelihoods of hardworking American families at stake, we simply can't afford months of unnecessary delays and risk squandering this once-in-a-century, bipartisan infrastructure package."

A very reasonable stance, IMO.

Unless you're going to throw another adolescent snit.

Strategically... it's a stupid move.

No, it's not. It's forcing the issue. YOU know how that works.

Yes, that's why strategically it's a stupid move.  It is working against their own constituents to force an issue one way instead of working for their constituents to force the issue the other way.

You should familarize yourself with the term "constituents". If you do't get re-elected, you don't have "constituents".

You should refamiliarize yourself with the idea that if the folks who are in your district support it, they are more likely to vote for you - and if you vote against their wishes, which is what it would be in this case, you are more likely to lose.

[LarryBnDC]

Josh beat me to it but...

You should familarize yourself with the term "constituents". If you do't get re-elected, you don't have "constituents".


Those pesky polls...


Wanna get re-elected? Don’t fuck up this moment and give the people what they want.




https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/353582/public-opinion-trillion-senate-budget-plan.aspx

[LarryBnDC]

Pay Attention, bitches!




“Through the remainder of 2021, racially- or ethnically-motivated violent extremists (RMVEs) and anti-government/anti-authority violent extremists will remain a national threat priority for the United States. These extremists may seek to exploit the emergence of COVID-19 variants by viewing the potential re-establishment of public health restrictions across the United States as a rationale to conduct attacks.  Pandemic-related stressors have contributed to increased societal strains and tensions, driving several plots by domestic violent extremists, and they may contribute to more violence this year.“



https://www.dhs.gov/ntas/advisory/national-terrorism-advisory-system-bulletin-august-13-2021

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045619/-Dallas-Judge-to-anti-maskers-There-are-no-ICU-beds-your-child-will-wait-for-another-child-to-die

“In Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children. That means that if your child is in a car wreck, your child has a congenital heart defect or something that needs an ICU bed, or more likely they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don’t have one. Your child will wait for another child to die. Your child will just not get on the ventilator.”

Good job Texas republicans!

[josh]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045619/-Dallas-Judge-to-anti-maskers-There-are-no-ICU-beds-your-child-will-wait-for-another-child-to-die

“In Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children. That means that if your child is in a car wreck, your child has a congenital heart defect or something that needs an ICU bed, or more likely they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don’t have one. Your child will wait for another child to die. Your child will just not get on the ventilator.”

Good job Texas republicans!

"NO BED SHORTAGES!" replies Kid. "FAKE NEWS!" he declares, with disgust.

[kiidcarter8]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045619/-Dallas-Judge-to-anti-maskers-There-are-no-ICU-beds-your-child-will-wait-for-another-child-to-die

“In Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children. That means that if your child is in a car wreck, your child has a congenital heart defect or something that needs an ICU bed, or more likely they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don’t have one. Your child will wait for another child to die. Your child will just not get on the ventilator.”

Well, no - this isn't true

[kiidcarter8]

Disgusting Erin Burnett episode featuring a totally misleading segment on "long COVID".

Fauci was on - for 17 seconds

[LarryBnDC]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045619/-Dallas-Judge-to-anti-maskers-There-are-no-ICU-beds-your-child-will-wait-for-another-child-to-die

“In Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children. That means that if your child is in a car wreck, your child has a congenital heart defect or something that needs an ICU bed, or more likely they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don’t have one. Your child will wait for another child to die. Your child will just not get on the ventilator.”

Well, no - this isn't true

Got facts?

[josh]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2021/8/13/2045619/-Dallas-Judge-to-anti-maskers-There-are-no-ICU-beds-your-child-will-wait-for-another-child-to-die

“In Dallas, we have zero ICU beds left for children. That means that if your child is in a car wreck, your child has a congenital heart defect or something that needs an ICU bed, or more likely they have COVID and need an ICU bed, we don’t have one. Your child will wait for another child to die. Your child will just not get on the ventilator.”

Well, no - this isn't true

No evidence, don't post.

It isn't a matter of opinion. It is a matter of fact to be disputed by facts.

Is this truly lost on you, Kid?

[josh]

Disgusting Erin Burnett episode featuring a totally misleading segment on "long COVID".

Fauci was on - for 17 seconds

Again, you want to dispute something, provide support.

Or shut the fuck up.