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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[REDSTATEWARD]

I am SHOCKED, I tell you - that so many Republicans oppose an unconstitutional vaccine mandate.  Shocked.

Good thing, then,  that vaccine mandates are not unconstitutional.  And pretty much like literally hundreds of other public health measures throughout our nation's history.

The vaccine mandate proposed by Biden is unconstitutional.

It's not.   Which is why you never actually cite the constitutional basis, but just keep making the same unsupported assertion.

I already have. We covered this when the issue first came up in 2020.
The Federal Government cannot not impose mandates on the states.
New York v. United States (1992) would be a good precedent to learn.

It sure would! You should learn it. What mandate is Biden opposing on the states that you think NY v. US impacts? Because the answer is "none" since Biden is not mandating or incentives legislation by the states.

The mandate being worked on by OSHA.
Biden is trying to work around the Constitution.

Not even in the ball park for the NY v US case. You could drop a nuclear bomb on the NY case and OSHA regulating work place health and safety would not even get radiation burns. The right wing web site you are pulling the argument from is playing you for a gullible ass.

the Ball Park is the Constitution.
NY vs. US established Congress is limited by the Constitution in laws dealing with state mandates.
The President  gets his power from Congress and the Constitution. Neither of which grant him the power to establish state Mandates.
Ergo, as the cited case affirms, the Federal Government has no power to establish state mandates.

The case is about mandating official state actions. What official state action does the vaccine mandate require?

There no Mandate since Biden and his gang  cannot come up with one to pass Constitutional muster.
But, as the Constitution directs and has been endorsed by SCOTUS the Federal government cannot directly compel the States to pass certain laws or act in accord with the Federal government
In Murphy v. NCAA,Justice Alito, writing for the majority,explained  that the Federal government could neither compel a State to enact legislation or forbid it.

Well, you finally at least read the syllabus for the case. Congratulations. What official state action is the vaccine mandate requiring? The answer, to save you time, is none.

None yet.
If there is one it will be unconstitutional.

Yes, and if he attempts to dissolve Congress that will also be unconstitutional. But since he has not indicated he intends to do anything of the sort - either your hypothetical or mine - what in the Holy Name of God are you blathering about?

That any mandate, of a state or a private business by the Federal Government, is unconstitutional.

So, OSHA cannot mandate goggles or other protective equipment?

For what?

And with that, Red raises the white flag.

No, you did.
For what reason can OSHA mandate goggles?
You know the answer, that

[kidcarter8]

Joy Reid:

"I can survive (COVID).  I have enough money and enough insurance,,,,"


Idiot.

[kidcarter8]

MSNBC enjoying their Newsom party tonight-    heh - as if there is anything to celebrate.

 

[REDSTATEWARD]

Joy Reid:

"I can survive (COVID).  I have enough money and enough insurance,,,,"


Idiot.

Nikki Minaj has Joy Reid and the leftists outraged
She refused to get vaccinated for the Met Gala and tweeted



My cousin in Trinidad wont  get the vaccine cuz his friend got it and became impotent. His testicles became swollen. His friend was weeks away from getting married, now the girl called off the wedding. So just pray on it and make sure you are comfortable with you decision, not bullied

The left is irate
Minaj has 22 million Twitter followers and blacks only have 40 per cent vaccinations.
Josh looks the other way.

[kidcarter8]

wont get the vaccine because his friend ended up STERILE - causing his pending marriage to be cancelled.

[Holly Martins]

Wait  -- we're now discussing Trinidadian rappers on Twitter as authoritative sources on public health which we must respond to?   

[Holly Martins]

MSNBC enjoying their Newsom party tonight-    heh - as if there is anything to celebrate.

The election was rigged!   Better file 60 lawsuits!   

[REDSTATEWARD]

Wait  -- we're now discussing Trinidadian rappers on Twitter as authoritative sources on public health which we must respond to?

Whoosh!

[kidcarter8]

Rest in peace, Norm McDonald.

[REDSTATEWARD]

Bob Woodward has a new book due out next 
PERIL

One excerpt regarding telephone call Joints of Staff  thoroughly modern Milley is chilling.

One call reportedly took place on 30 October 2020 - four days before the election. The other took place on 8 January, two days after Trump supporters attacked Congress, seeking to overturn that defeat.

In the first call, prompted also by tensions in the South China Sea and over the origins of the coronavirus pandemic, Milley reportedly told Li:

I want to assure you that the American government is stable and everything is going to be OK. We are not going to attack or conduct any kinetic operations against you.

Milley also reportedly told the Chinese general he would warn him if an attack was launched.

In the second call, after the Capitol riot, Milley told Li:

We are 100% steady. Everything's fine. But democracy can be sloppy sometimes.

[josh]

https://theweek.com/politics/1004777/the-gops-election-fraud-time-bomb

Where do they think pretending the election fraud is a real problem, when the problem is those bogus claims, is going to get America, as a nation?

[Holly Martins]

Wait  -- we're now discussing Trinidadian rappers on Twitter as authoritative sources on public health which we must respond to?

Whoosh!

Twas a rhetorical question,  whooshbag

[Holly Martins]

MSNBC enjoying their Newsom party tonight-    heh - as if there is anything to celebrate.

The election was rigged!   Better file 60 lawsuits!

Filing a lawsuit is everyone's right.

Yes it is!   Better get cracking!  Lots of rigging,  I mean just huuuge rigging!   You could outfit twenty Cutty Sarks with all that rigging!   How could democrats possibly prevail in California?

[Holly Martins]

Rest in peace, Norm McDonald.

Second that.   Oily commented up in the comedy thread.   What he said.   

[josh]

MSNBC enjoying their Newsom party tonight-    heh - as if there is anything to celebrate.

The election was rigged!   Better file 60 lawsuits!

Filing a lawsuit is everyone's right.

Yes it is!   Better get cracking!  Lots of rigging,  I mean just huuuge rigging!   You could outfit twenty Cutty Sarks with all that rigging!   How could democrats possibly prevail in California?

Everybody has the right to file a lawsuit, except for when the judge says it is not, as was often the case with the challenges to the 2020 voting in various states. Lack of standing, lack of a way to address the issue, having it be frivolous.

And even if you get to file it, there is no guarantee you will not be slammed for it later.