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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[REDSTATEWARD]

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The American Federation of Government Employees, which counts roughly 700,000 federal and D.C. government workers, has asked President Joe Biden to delay the deadline for federal workers to receive the coronavirus vaccine from November 22nd to January 4th.



LOL!

[LarryBnDC]

Funny about Gosar

CNN guests tonight - members of Congress

"He has NO BUSINESS" being in Congress"

Well, first off - elections determine who serves

And there is a way to get him out.  Work on it.

Til then the BUSINEES he has there is that he was elected.

Jawohl!

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

here's a QnD political ideology quiz 16 questions and it slots you in one 9 political groupings.

I came in at Establishment Liberal.

Bankshot is the Mark Penn of James Carvilles... had some decent wins in the 90s.

[kidcarter8]

kid do you think he should be reprimanded by his caucus?


Sure

That would help in his re-election (its ALL about that these days, pal - not saying its a good thing)

[facilitatorn]

BTW it was also visible in Facilitats posting.   Or does he also not appear?  How many are in your Iggy box,  Chewbacca?

11 and counting

More republicans should do what Red does. When they find themselves, outmanned, outclassed, and outgunned, which is basically all the time, they should all just run the fuck away.

Outsider Lib was how the quiz interpreted my answers.

[bankshot1]

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

here's a QnD political ideology quiz 16 questions and it slots you in one 9 political groupings.

I came in at Establishment Liberal.

Bankshot is the Mark Penn of James Carvilles... had some decent wins in the 90s.

I saw Penn's piece in the NYT yesterday it sounds like he read my posts here.

HEH

If Democrats remain on their current course and keep coddling and catering to progressives, they could lose as many as 50 seats and control of the House in the 2022 midterm elections. There is a way forward now for President Biden and the Democratic Party: Fridays passage of the bipartisan physical infrastructure bill is a first step but only a broader course correction to the center will give Democrats a fighting chance in 2022 and a shot at holding on to the presidency in 2024.


As I posted on a few occasions Biden has to market hard the benefits of BIF to Dems and Indies to recapture momentum and moderate votes going into '22.  He's got the wins, now monetize them before its too late.

[josh]

Outsider Left per that Pew quiz.  The summary they give...

Outsider Left are the youngest typology group. They hold liberal views on most issues, particularly on issues of racial equality and immigration, and overwhelmingly vote Democratic. They are more skeptical of government performance than other Democratic oriented groups, though far less so than those in GOP oriented groups. While they arent particularly happy with the Democratic Party, they also have deeply negative views of the GOP.
Though nearly half of Outsider Left describe their own political views as liberal, only about three-in-ten identify as Democrats; about half say they are independents who lean toward the Democratic Party.

Barton Google search apropos of nothing.

You really don't read well, Ward.

[josh]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/09/politics/trump-documents-january-6-committee-national-archives-judge-ruling/index.html

Good news on the Trump docs case.

Only bad news is that it came on Tuesday eve instead of Thursday, increasing the chance of appeal I don't expect the appeal to work either, even when SCOTUS hears it, but this SCOTUS has shown too much willingness to overlook precedent, so not having it reach them would be best.

[josh]

On the weird news side...

https://www.tmz.com/2021/11/09/dr-oz-seriously-exploring-us-senate-run-pennsylvania/

[kidcarter8]

Shame what the asshole media did to this kid

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-defense-gaige-grosskreutz-testimony

[REDSTATEWARD]

Shame what the asshole media did to this kid

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-defense-gaige-grosskreutz-testimony

Amen squared.

[facilitatorn]

Shame what the asshole media did to this kid

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-defense-gaige-grosskreutz-testimony

Amen squared.

Shame the kid did not shoot himself while loading his rounds or drive off the road and into a wall on his way out there to do his murders.

[LarryBnDC]

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/quiz/political-typology/

here's a QnD political ideology quiz 16 questions and it slots you in one 9 political groupings.

I came in at Establishment Liberal.

Bankshot is the Mark Penn of James Carvilles... had some decent wins in the 90s.

I saw Penn's piece in the NYT yesterday it sounds like he read my posts here.

HEH

If Democrats remain on their current course and keep coddling and catering to progressives, they could lose as many as 50 seats and control of the House in the 2022 midterm elections. There is a way forward now for President Biden and the Democratic Party: Fridays passage of the bipartisan physical infrastructure bill is a first step but only a broader course correction to the center will give Democrats a fighting chance in 2022 and a shot at holding on to the presidency in 2024.


As I posted on a few occasions Biden has to market hard the benefits of BIF to Dems and Indies to recapture momentum and moderate votes going into '22.  He's got the wins, now monetize them before its too late.

Keep going to the right while thinking it is the center.

Mark Penn is just another grafting hack who went from being Clinton supporter and strategist to Trump apologist.

If you are on the same page with Penn you are reading the wrong book This is the same guy who said Barack Obama was unelectable except perhaps against Attila the Hun.

He has been playing the same song about the party moving to the center for the last few cycles and he is always wrong.

From 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/opinion/center-democrats-identity-politics.html

The path back to power for the Democratic Party today, as it was in the 1990s, is unquestionably to move to the center and reject the siren calls of the left, whose policies and ideas have weakened the party.

He rails against Identity Politics while ignoring the most reliable base voters.

With regard to the same article:

Most of the column is so obvious in its wrongness that it is tiresome to even point out the faulty reasoning, the mendacious misreading of recent history, and the incoherent policy vision. The narrative that Bill Clinton won reelection in 1996 because of his lurch to the right, and not because he was an incumbent president during a period of rising employment and wages, is trotted out for the ten millionth time. The lessons of Hillary Clinton 2008 loss in the Democratic primaries, which Penn was more responsible for than anyone not named Obama, are ignored.

Mark Penn has been writing variations on this column for years, and he has shown time and time again that his political instincts are worthless. Barack Obama was a two-term president in large part because his campaign team operated on the principle that they ought to do whatever the opposite of what Mark Penn, or someone like him, would do.

https://splinternews.com/mark-penns-bad-column-also-makes-no-goddamn-sense-1796686934

From 2018

She has decisively to win those Iowa caucus-goers who have never warmed up to her. They will see her now as strong, partisan, left-leaning and all-Democrat the one with the guts, experience and steely-eyed determination to defeat Mr. Trump.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/416164-ex-clinton-aide-hillary-will-run-again-in-2020

Um, yeah...

From 2019

After being blockaded away from the HRC 2016 campaign he slid over and buddied up to Trump

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/former-clinton-advisor-mark-penn-turns-his-coat-for-trump.html

After the info about Ukraine became impeachable Penn went from apologist buddy to defender.

https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/mark-penn-dem-calls-to-impeach-trump-echo-partisan-impeachment-of-president-andrew-johnson-in-1868

you do not understand...

Hey banks!

The 90s called and wants its politics back.

[josh]

Shame what the asshole media did to this kid

https://www.foxnews.com/us/kyle-rittenhouse-trial-defense-gaige-grosskreutz-testimony

Amen squared.

Shame the kid did not shoot himself while loading his rounds or drive off the road and into a wall on his way out there to do his murders.

I don't want more deaths. I want fewer.

I want the guy who was chasing him to not have been chasing him, but I want him not to have been given a ride and not to have brought his illegal weapon.

Once again, the alleged Law and Order advocates are rooting for the vigilante.

Such bullshit.

[josh]

Speaking of Shit for Brains you could add in Jen Psaki and Kammy Harris.
Both have violated federal law.
Psaki used the White House Press Room to endorse democrat Terry MacAuliffe for Virginia Governor.
Harris taped a MacAuliffe political spot  that is being played in African American churches around the state.

Things must be going bad for MacAuliffe.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/09/politics/thirteen-trump-officials-violated-hatch-act/index.html

Oddly enough, Ward, you poo-pooed it when we pointed out that Trump's people violated the Hatch Act.

Now you think it is worthy of talking about, but only for the Dems.

What's the point?

That as ever, you are the embodiment of corruption.