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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[josh]

What's fascinating to me is how the right wing "adults" here and elsewhere talk about young Mr. Rittenhouse, given how they talked about young Ms. Thunberg:

[LarryBnDC]

American Rescue Plan
Bipartisan Infrastructure

Now how matter you slice or parse it, Biden has done what I hoped from our federal government, recognize the moment and GO BIG!

I hate the amount of political capital pissed away by Manchin and Sinema but even with the stripped down Build Back Better bill these acts are the biggest investments in the USA future in generations.

And fuck you to the first person that comes in yapping about inflation.

[josh]

[Hairy Lime]

Wow.  What now?

https://www.cnn.com/2021/11/15/politics/wyoming-gop-liz-cheney/index.html

Ideally, the creation of a legitimate conservative political party that is interested in governing rather than the accumulation of power and which does not enforce a lock step membership in a cult of personality of ite members. It will not happen, sadly.

[Hamilton Samuels]

What's fascinating to me is how the right wing "adults" here and elsewhere talk about young Mr. Rittenhouse, given how they talked about young Ms. Thunberg:

So, it's "Us" vs "Them", eh?

[LarryBnDC]

What's fascinating to me is how the right wing "adults" here and elsewhere talk about young Mr. Rittenhouse, given how they talked about young Ms. Thunberg:

So, it's "Us" vs "Them", eh?

Damn right.

[Holly Martins]

Coming from that part of the country, I get where Lizzie is coming from.   If you ranch,  say,  you feel you know what is the best way to manage your land,  and prefer minimal regulation from a distant federal government.  She is a traditional conservative - small government, ethos of self-reliance, and safety nets deployed by churches not federal agencies.  Arsenic leach from mine tailings thats not really a thing just some myth from a nervous Nellie in DC.

Would be an interesting/scary social experiment if MT, WY,  SD, ND, ID seceded and formed some sort of Northwest Republic run on Cheneyish principles.  Probably turn extra nightmarish if someone like Kristi Noem took over,  though.  Noem would toss out constitutional principles and free speech faster than a two dollar meth whore unzips your trousers.   Yeah,  typed that last sentence and it struck me how much I loathe Kristi.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Good news, as the capitalism rides to the rescue: https://www.marketwatch.com/story/pfizer-and-moderna-announce-moves-to-help-get-vital-covid-medicines-to-low-income-countries-and-arkansas-joins-other-states-in-expanding-booster-program-to-all-adults-11637077256

[Hamilton Samuels]

What's fascinating to me is how the right wing "adults" here and elsewhere talk about young Mr. Rittenhouse, given how they talked about young Ms. Thunberg:

So, it's "Us" vs "Them", eh?

Damn right.

That's wholly unAmerican, and you should know it.

The middle is where the path to the future lies.

Even Lincoln knew that.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Coming from that part of the country, I get where Lizzie is coming from.   If you ranch,  say,  you feel you know what is the best way to manage your land,  and prefer minimal regulation from a distant federal government.  She is a traditional conservative - small government, ethos of self-reliance, and safety nets deployed by churches not federal agencies.  Arsenic leach from mine tailings thats not really a thing just some myth from a nervous Nellie in DC.

Would be an interesting/scary social experiment if MT, WY,  SD, ND, ID seceded and formed some sort of Northwest Republic run on Cheneyish principles.  Probably turn extra nightmarish if someone like Kristi Noem took over,  though.  Noem would toss out constitutional principles and free speech faster than a two dollar meth whore unzips your trousers.   Yeah,  typed that last sentence and it struck me how much I loathe Kristi.

And maybe it shows your familiarity with two-dollar meth whores?

[Holly Martins]

Heh.   Fair enough and I knew I was neatly setting up that joke.   On further reflection, I would have been disappointed if no one had gone for it.

[Holly Martins]

That's wholly unAmerican, and you should know it.

The middle is where the path to the future lies.

Even Lincoln knew that.

The culture war is real,  but the media whips it into a frenzy,  and amplifies it like Nigel Tufnels amp that goes to 11. 

[Hamilton Samuels]

That's wholly unAmerican, and you should know it.

The middle is where the path to the future lies.

Even Lincoln knew that.

The culture war is real,  but the media whips it into a frenzy,  and amplifies it like Nigel Tufnels amp that goes to 11.

No, most people are lazy and just succumb to the media's influence.

The media is just easy to blame.

Bottom line, if you are truly committed to moving forward, in any situation, it is best to seek a path of compromise between the either-ors.

We used to do that pretty well, and we might well do it again in the future, but embracing "Us" vs "Them" politics is counterproductive to any real progress.

 

[Hamilton Samuels]

The simple truth is that what Ponzi was to finance and what fortune-telling is to science, Joseph McCarthy is to politics.

Quoted from the WaPo.

Ponzi-politics is being used on both sides of the aisle.

We moderates aren't buying into it, thank you very much.

[FlyingVProd]

I guess this is what the new Amtrak high speed trains will be like...

https://www.amtrak.com/next-generation-acela-express

The Acela trains will be better than what we have now, but it just seems like we could do better in the 21st Century.

And on the California high speed train, they need to hire more workers and they need to build multiple sections at once in order to employ more people and also to get it all done faster.

Two routes that we need quickly is the route between Los Angeles and Lancaster, and also the route between Las Vegas and Anaheim.

Salute,

Tony V.