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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[facilitatorn]

Jose Alba may be the counterpoint to George Floyd.
And George Soros will never have a statue in America.

You have no idea what you are talking about, but I see now why you want to keep Nathan Bedford Forrest standing in ignominy on every available plinth.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/07/07/liz-cheney-gop-masculinity-hawley-00044390

So naturally the GOP is trying to castrate itself, having grown tired of the taste of its own balls.

[kidcarter8]

The problem for Cheney is that there isn't a lot of room in the Republican Party for those who voted to impeach Trump. A 2021 Pew Research Center poll found that 64  per cent of Republicans said the party should not be accepting of those who had.


yep



Support Hageman.



At a time when we needed all hands on deck, Liz Cheney jumped ship, dogpaddled to the other side, and is now shooting back at us, said Hageman.  When Liz Cheney voted to impeach President Trump, she betrayed Wyoming, she betrayed this country, and she betrayed me. Most of the people of Wyoming feel the same way.

[josh]

The problem for Cheney is that there isn't a lot of room in the Republican Party for those who voted to impeach Trump. A 2021 Pew Research Center poll found that 64  per cent of Republicans said the party should not be accepting of those who had.


yep



Support Hageman.



At a time when we needed all hands on deck, Liz Cheney jumped ship, dogpaddled to the other side, and is now shooting back at us, said Hageman.  When Liz Cheney voted to impeach President Trump, she betrayed Wyoming, she betrayed this country, and she betrayed me. Most of the people of Wyoming feel the same way.

Like I said:

The anti-law and order GOP. "My party, right or wrong. Especially wrong"

Thank you for so clearly illustrating my point.

[kidcarter8]

It is not the charges for trump, it is the charges that will cripple trumpworld and the GOP that I am interested in.


Good luck

Can't say it's a Republican DOJ.

[kidcarter8]

The problem for Cheney is that there isn't a lot of room in the Republican Party for those who voted to impeach Trump. A 2021 Pew Research Center poll found that 64  per cent of Republicans said the party should not be accepting of those who had.


yep



Support Hageman.



At a time when we needed all hands on deck, Liz Cheney jumped ship, dogpaddled to the other side, and is now shooting back at us, said Hageman.  When Liz Cheney voted to impeach President Trump, she betrayed Wyoming, she betrayed this country, and she betrayed me. Most of the people of Wyoming feel the same way.

Like I said:

The anti-law and order GOP. "My party, right or wrong. Especially wrong"

Thank you for so clearly illustrating my point.

Ahhhh....

very well

I see  what you mean now, grasshopper.

Not speaking to teh burning of cities or the gun control.  You seem to go back andd forth with little warning.  Yesterday it was guns.  Today, 1/6 and jail Trump.

You and Fac have a room? 

[Hairy Lime]

The problem for Cheney is that there isn't a lot of room in the Republican Party for those who voted to impeach Trump. A 2021 Pew Research Center poll found that 64  per cent of Republicans said the party should not be accepting of those who had.


yep



Support Hageman.



At a time when we needed all hands on deck, Liz Cheney jumped ship, dogpaddled to the other side, and is now shooting back at us, said Hageman.  When Liz Cheney voted to impeach President Trump, she betrayed Wyoming, she betrayed this country, and she betrayed me. Most of the people of Wyoming feel the same way.

The Repo party has become a cult of personality supporting the ringleader of an attempt to overthrow our elected government and you think that says something bad about Cheney. That says everything anyone needs to know about the toxic state of the party and its ovine supporters like you.

[josh]

The problem for Cheney is that there isn't a lot of room in the Republican Party for those who voted to impeach Trump. A 2021 Pew Research Center poll found that 64  per cent of Republicans said the party should not be accepting of those who had.


yep



Support Hageman.



At a time when we needed all hands on deck, Liz Cheney jumped ship, dogpaddled to the other side, and is now shooting back at us, said Hageman.  When Liz Cheney voted to impeach President Trump, she betrayed Wyoming, she betrayed this country, and she betrayed me. Most of the people of Wyoming feel the same way.

Like I said:

The anti-law and order GOP. "My party, right or wrong. Especially wrong"

Thank you for so clearly illustrating my point.

Ahhhh....

very well

I see  what you mean now, grasshopper.

Not speaking to teh burning of cities or the gun control.  You seem to go back andd forth with little warning.  Yesterday it was guns.  Today, 1/6 and jail Trump.

You and Fac have a room?

You don't read very well.

Or think very well.

"Law and Order" is a mantle you treat the same way you treat Pro-Life and "Small Government."

It is a convenient campaign slogan to make you sound grand, but which you only mean in the most limited of fashions.

I addressed both guns and Jan 6 yesterday. I replied to your nonsense of giving Rudy credit for changes in NYC that were at a time when the violent crime rate was dropping all over the country (and in many other countries as well).

And I talked about the Jan 6 issue, as did you. Yours was a fatuous misrepresentation of what a transcribed interview meant, suggesting it was the Committee's preference done to permit them to limit what is shared with the public, coupled with more BS from you about what I meant in my multi-part to you including Hutchinson's testimony about what she was directly told and what she overheard.

[kidcarter8]

I addressed both guns and Jan 6 yesterday. I replied to your nonsense of giving Rudy credit for changes in NYC that were at a time when the violent crime rate was dropping all over the country (and in many other countries as well).


Rudy's policies had little to do with cleaning up NY City  ?  Is this what yu are saying?

And going away from those efforts didnt lead to the city once again seeing a rise in crime and lesser quality of life? 

I mean -I get it - the guy being rousted by a cop - the guy being totally innocent of any wrongding - had a beef back then.  But the greater good was served.

[kidcarter8]

Presidential Medal of Freedom for this guy -


heh


In Simpsons  words to this Court,  I was a monster.

In that brief, in support of the claimant in the Supreme Court case, Simpson admitted that, as a juvenile, he had been on federal probation for shooting mailboxes and punching a cop and that he  was a monster .   

One day in Cody, Wyoming, when Simpson was in high school, he and some friends "went out to do damage. They went to an abandoned war relocation structure and decided to  torch it. They committed arson on federal property, a crime now punishable by up to twenty years in prison if no one is hurt, and punishable by up to life in prison if the arson causes a person's death. Luckily for Simpson, no one was injured in the blaze.

Simpson not only played with fire, but also with guns. He played a game with his friends in which they shot at rocks close to one another, at times using bullets they stole from the local hardware store. The goal of the game was to come as close as possible to striking someone without actually doing so. Again, Simpson was lucky: no one was killed or seriously injured, or caught by their parents.

Simpson and his friends went shooting throughout their community. They fired their rifles at mailboxes, blowing holes in several and killing a cow. They fired their weapons at a road grader.  We just raised hell, Simpson says. Federal authorities charged Simpson with destroying government property and Simpson pleaded guilty. He received two years of probation and was required to make restitution from his own funds,  funds that he was supposed to obtain by holding down a job.

As he Simpson has described it,  The older you get, the more you realize   your own attitude is stupefying, and arrogant, and cocky, and a miserable way to live.   


I guess they needed another Republican after McCain, who its hard to believe had to wait this long to be honored.

This guy's story might be  good one for gun control advocates to cite - as if there were AR 15s available at the time of his youth who knows what mayhem could have followed? 


Congrats as well to Denzel and Simone and Megan for being honored - you can judge for yourself if deserved.


https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/07/politics/biden-presidential-medal-of-freedom/index.html 

[Hairy Lime]

Maybe give a.good hard think about why McCain was not honored when his terminal illness was diagnosed and Rush Limpbaugh was.

[josh]

I addressed both guns and Jan 6 yesterday. I replied to your nonsense of giving Rudy credit for changes in NYC that were at a time when the violent crime rate was dropping all over the country (and in many other countries as well).


Rudy's policies had little to do with cleaning up NY City  ?  Is this what yu are saying?

And going away from those efforts didnt lead to the city once again seeing a rise in crime and lesser quality of life? 

I mean -I get it - the guy being rousted by a cop - the guy being totally innocent of any wrongding - had a beef back then.  But the greater good was served.

"It's okay if we are racist in our stop and frisk and have targeted the least likely population for the kind of crime we claim we are trying to stop. It's for the greater good and the ends justify the means, even if the ends aren't actually met."

Thanks, Kid.

Violent crime in New York began falling three years before Giuliani took office in 1994, U.S. Justice Department records show. Property crime began falling four years before. The decline accelerated during his administration, but the "turnaround" he claims credit for started before him.

 New York was no anomaly, but was part of a trend that saw crime fall sharply nationwide in the 1990s, particularly in big cities. The city with the best record for reducing violent crime during this period? San Francisco.

Independent studies generally have failed to link the tactics of the Giuliani administration with the large decrease in crime rates.

Rather, many criminologists believe the decline in New York, as in Chicago, San Diego, Miami and elsewhere, was the result of a complex mix of social and demographic changes, including a break in the crack cocaine epidemic, an improving economy, and increased prison terms for proven lawbreakers.

Better policing tactics and policies were likely part of it, experts say, but not to the extent Giuliani claims.

[josh]

If Trump had awarded Simpson, you would be cheering it as a redemption story.

[LarryBnDC]

After Hutchinson's testimony, Sarah Matthews, who served as deputy press secretary in the Trump White House until resigning shortly after the January 6 attack, tweeted that "anyone downplaying Cassidy Hutchinson's role or her access in the West Wing either doesn't understand how the Trump (White House) worked or is attempting to discredit her because they're scared of how damning this testimony is."

Role?

Access?

Right hand to the Chief of Staff for the President of the USA.

Schedule wrangler, door keeper and the grease that keeps the gears turning.

If it happens in and around the Oval she knows.

Yes, I understand.   She HEARS things

heh

No.

She knows.

You are harping on one instance where she clearly says SHE WAS TOLD about the instance by DCoS who was the actual witness.

Why is that fucking even a THING in a hearing?  That someone heard something.

Because it is not a trial and there is no hearsay exclusion. The only issue is relevance; well along with things like  the credibility and opportunity to observe for the witness. It is used all the time in non-trial situations.

Except in most grand jury proceedings the one sided testimony is secret.
In this case anything said that is politically damaging to the GOP is not.

This is a Congressional Hearing.

Not a trial nor grand jury.

Yes

Yet their end game is an indictment and a conviction.

If Liz had only stopped at "we just dont want him to run again" she would have been a proud American to be somewhat revered.

Alas...no.  The dark side has got her.

If the end game warrants indictment and conviction is that not justice for his crimes?

Doesnt matter

You wont lay off if he is NOT indicted.  Your group will spout either way       

Cry some more.

Your boy fucked up and one way or another he and the rest of seditionist clowns are gonna pay.

JUSTICE

[LarryBnDC]

https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1544818389289508867

Bill Bennett recommends exorcism.

LOLOLOLOL!

Guy who preached about Virtue while he was accumulating millions in gambling debts.

Moralizing hypocrite