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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[LarryBnDC]

Is this an injustice?

https://www.essentiallysports.com/us-sports-news-swimming-news-she-let-down-the-country-michael-phelps-fans-left-disappointed-as-simone-biles-receives-presidential-medal-of-freedom-before-swimming-legend/

Maybe so.

Joe blew it.

She in no way let the country down.

Bunch of fans bitching that their guy did not get the honor first.

I think your blinded by race on this one. He has almost 3 times as many medals, and was way ahead of her in raising awareness on mental health in the world of elite athletes.

She deserves one, but AFTER he got his, IMO, and in many others' opinions.

She stood before the world and faced her abuser along with her teammates and said that guy did that TO ME.

Then she got the twisties in the Olympics and rather than mail it in she stood up and I cannot do this. I will not do this!

It was much more than athleticism.

BTW

When she was leaving DC a fight attendant offered her a coloring book...

Maybe check out Phelps' personal struggles. Oh, wait. He's a white male. Doesn't count, right?

I do not make the picks.

I did a profile on him in 2008. Great guy. Terrific family. He has earned a slot. But...

awards recipients are selected for their political value as well as how much is deserved. Jim Jordan for fucks sake.

Biles has a lot of clout in a community Democrats must excite in 22, black women being called on to save the country from itself... again.

Well, sort of. It is not like Alan Simpson appeals to that sort of demographic. But the real question for this sort of thing ought to be is the person worthy of the medal, not is someone more worthy since the answer to that question is pretty much always yes. For example,  the issue is not whether Gym Jordan deserved the MoF before Joe Paterno or Kathie Klages. It is whether he deserved at all.

Do not overthink it in THIS situation.

My response was specifically concerning Biles over Phelps.

Megan Rapinoe? Obvious youth LGBTQ demo.

Sister Simone? Christian Social Justice Warrior

Speaking of Alan Simpson in addition to be deserving it might also be a thank you to Liz Chaney.

[LarryBnDC]

I had heard that the Secret Service had erased their Jan 5 & 6 texts.

I had not heard that the erasures came after the texts were requested!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/secret-service-text-messages-erased/index.html

Tony Ornato turned Secret Service into Trump Praetorian Guard.

[josh]

I had heard that the Secret Service had erased their Jan 5 & 6 texts.

I had not heard that the erasures came after the texts were requested!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/secret-service-text-messages-erased/index.html

Tony Ornato turned Secret Service into Trump Praetorian Guard.

I think it came from above Ornato - there is a reason the now-former head of the Service fled to the private sector.

[Hairy Lime]

Harry Lime wrote


If you take a look at the list.of prior recipients,( Medal of Freedom) there are two professional football players on the list Roger Staubach and Alan Page, both awarded by the treason monkey in 2018. Absent from any discussion at the time was why them and not Joe Montana and Reggie White. No discussion of why Jim Ryan and not Carl Lewis, Annika Sorenstram and not Nancy Lopez. Those issues only arise when someone has an agenda apart from the medal decision.


Allan Page sets the standard for the Medal Freedom which reads The Presidential Medal of Freedom is the Nation s highest civilian honor, presented to individuals who have made exemplary contributions to the prosperity, values, or security of the United States, world peace, or other significant societal, public or private endeavors.

The Page legacy in football is unmatched and he is a member of both Halls of Fame. After his NFL retirement he served as an Associate Justice of Minnesota Supreme Court for 21 years.
Then Page and his daughter founded the Page Education Foundation which provides financial and mentor assistance for local students of color to attend public and private universities, colleges and trade schools in Minnesota.
What started as a dream of raising $100,000 to give 10 young people postsecondary opportunities, has now garnered over $14 million and sent almost 6,500 students to Minnesota schools and another 40 to Notre Dame (the one exception to the Minnesota rule) over the past 30 years.

An outspoken critic of Donald Trump, Page was still selected by Trump to be honored with the Medal of Freedom based on his lifetime achievements. The Page selection was hardly based on any agendaother than merit.

 
Your disdain for Notre Dame is boringly stupid based on the 1966 football season when Page and Notre Dame won the National Championship over Michigan State, the season that included the infamous 10-10 tie when the two teams met.

You may never get over  that, I guess.

But do not take it out on Page.

I think you have misinterpreted my post.

No, I did not.

Yes, you did.

No. i did not.
There was no agendato select Alan Page for the Medal of Freedom....

I never said there was. Nor did I say or imply he did not deserve it.

Of course you did.

Of course I did not.

So what did Those issues only arise when someone has an agenda apart from the medal decision.

Actually mean?

Exactly what it says. Do you pay no attention to context at all?

You had no context...

I am not responsible for your inability to comprehend written language.

[facilitatorn]

I had heard that the Secret Service had erased their Jan 5 & 6 texts.

I had not heard that the erasures came after the texts were requested!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/secret-service-text-messages-erased/index.html

Tony Ornato turned Secret Service into Trump Praetorian Guard.

I think it came from above Ornato - there is a reason the now-former head of the Service fled to the private sector.

Guys like this are the reason I hope we have kept some black sites. They do not deserve to keep their fingernails. They may eventually remember all the specific content of their texts and phone calls, given enough years and enough prodding.

[Hairy Lime]

As for Ward, think it's now well established that he doesn't read for meaning.

You had no context other than a hatred of Trump and Notre Dame.
Which,of course,reflects only your bigotry.
You can never transcend personal insults.

QED

Thank you.

QED, i.e. QED that Ward doesn't read for meaning.

Oh, but I do.

Then you are spectacularly bad at it.

[Oilcandide]

Name that Thug?

Elon Musk?

JK.

Looks like someone at Nuremberg but couldn't say for sure.

[josh]

[Holly Martins]

Hello Kitty franchise now offers new Hello Kitten line for the very young and pregnant.

BTW, anyone reflecting on the implications of a ten year old being able to get pregnant?  This trend has been predicted for years, as endocrine disruptor chemicals are saturating the environment and inducing abnormally early puberty.  Since fertility usually takes another year or so, after first signs of puberty, this would strongly suggest the Ohio girl was starting puberty at nine.  The average is around twelve, which is already a year earlier than it was in the sixties.

As for the perpetrator, I would be willing to set aside my usual death penalty objections.
Good lord.

[kidcarter8]

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/us/indiana-ag-ohio-rape-victim/index.html

The AG in Indiana is investigating the doctor who helped the 10 year old get an abortion.

The AG is morally corrupt.

Sounds like the investigation will be done and lead to nothing

Spilt milk.

[kidcarter8]

Hello Kitty franchise now offers new Hello Kitten line for the very young and pregnant.

BTW, anyone reflecting on the implications of a ten year old being able to get pregnant?  This trend has been predicted for years, as endocrine disruptor chemicals are saturating the environment and inducing abnormally early puberty.  Since fertility usually takes another year or so, after first signs of puberty, this would strongly suggest the Ohio girl was starting puberty at nine.  The average is around twelve, which is already a year earlier than it was in the sixties.

As for the perpetrator, I would be willing to set aside my usual death penalty objections.
Good lord.

Has there ever been a death penalty case in any state that didnt involve a murder?

[kidcarter8]

I had heard that the Secret Service had erased their Jan 5 & 6 texts.

I had not heard that the erasures came after the texts were requested!

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/14/politics/secret-service-text-messages-erased/index.html

Let's go!!!!!

Now we got a movie!

[Holly Martins]

JOSH - just an FYI that Firefox can no longer connect to Elba.  Switched to Chrome to post this.  Anyway, might let owner know the site needs some kind of security update.  I can copy/paste the message that Firefox gives when it tries to connect, if that helps.


DeeJ:

JK is a netism for "Just Kidding."

[Holly Martins]

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[Espnthree]

Is Joe Manchin the only sane democrat leader alive as the Obama era economy gobbles up our income via inflation?

Despite his sizable load of baggage Pre-Covid under Trump and the GOP we had real wage growth, real wage gains for middle class families and working class families.
Joe Biden inherited leadership of the democrats who now are only interested in raising taxes mostly for the benefit of their woke elitist backers.

No wonder GOP voter registration roles are  surging.