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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[Espnthree]

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of  a life or potential life.

Same sex marriage is no more entrenched in our culture than abortion was/is and perhaps less so.

Laughably stupid. Abortion was never entrenched in our culture before Roe, instead it was outlawed.  Still it was moving to acceptance and gaining ground in the States. TheConstitution since our Founding did not prohibit the citizens of each State from regulating or prohibiting abortion. In 1973 Roe and Casey arrogated that authority
and  created a RIGHT not found in the Constitution.

Alito for the majority in Dobbs : We now overrule those decisions and return that authority to the people and their elected representatives.
Arrogated is an unusual word; it means to take without justification, implying that it is done in an arrogant way. That is the core argument of Dobbs: Roe was the court being arrogant, taking power the justices did not have, which rightly belongs with the people.

Same sex marriage was ruled protected by the due process clause of the 14th Amendment.
Unlike abortion it affects consenting adults and there is no serious effort to overturn it.  Nor will there be.
It is now an accepted part of our culture.

[josh]

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/world/471306/australians-urged-to-work-from-home-as-winter-omicron-wave-swamps-hospitals

[LarryBnDC]

In less than surprising news, the anti-law GOP in Arizona censured one of their state's officials for standing up to Donald Trump and being honest at the Jan 6 Committee hearings:

cnn.com/2022/07/20/politics/rusty-bowers-censure-arizona-republican-party-jan-6/index.html

"No longer a Republican in good standing," said the GOP state committee.

THIS, Kid, is why I say you belong to an anti-law and order party. What the GOP has tried to do in Georgia is part of the same whole. The resistance to giving testimony to the Georgia grand jury. Etc.

Trump tried to overturn an election and your party still struggles with honesty about it.

I belong to the same party as Rusty Bowers.

But do you stand with Rusty Bowers or do you stand with those who censured him?

Republicans have free will and act on it.  Same as Dems.  I am not a politician.  Dont need to act one way or another or offer any opinion on this.

Straddling the fence between hard right conservative and Nazi.
That is some fence pole up your ass.

[facilitatorn]

It fits in there snuggly next to his head.

[Hairy Lime]

Same sex marriage, interracial marriage, contraception are already federally protected rights and will never be overturned.

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of a life or potential life.

An awful big distinction to elide over like that. Protecting potential life leads to the criminalization of birth  control, vasectomies and male masturbation.

[josh]

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of  a life or potential life.

This decision will result in the destruction of lives.

[Espnthree]

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of  a life or potential life.

This decision will result in the destruction of lives.

Never seemed to bother you the last 50 years.

[kidcarter8]

PAXLOVID

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[kidcarter8]

https://www.yalemedicine.org/news/13-things-to-know-paxlovid-covid-19


"You're OK.  You're not going to get COVID if you've got these vaccinations"

- President Joe Biden

[facilitatorn]

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of  a life or potential life.

This decision will result in the destruction of lives.

Never seemed to bother you the last 50 years.

Ward was aborted from the neck up some years ago by mr Reagan and mr Gingrich, neither of whom are board certified or even sanitary.

It is why he cannot read so good or understand the meaning in simple strings of words.

[josh]

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of  a life or potential life.

This decision will result in the destruction of lives.

Never seemed to bother you the last 50 years.

a) Our poor record on both the lives of new borns and the lives of their mothers is a thing I have post\ed about consistently and to which you have never responded.

b) Way to deliberately misunderstand my post.

c) As I have said in the last 24 hours, I'm talking about the women who will die as a result of this ruling. So, while the potential existed should the law change, no, I was not bothered by deaths that did not exist.

[facilitatorn]

http://thetriad.thebulwark.com/p/the-democrats-made-them-do-it

[Espnthree]

Abortion, with some limits, was federally protected.

WAS being the operative word.
It was not entrenched in our culture , was not part of the Constitution,  had no legislative background, and, of course, resulted in the destruction of  a life or potential life.

This decision will result in the destruction of lives.

Never seemed to bother you the last 50 years.

a) Our poor record on both the lives of new borns and the lives of their mothers is a thing I have post\ed about consistently and to which you have never responded.

b) Way to deliberately misunderstand my post.

c) As I have said in the last 24 hours, I'm talking about the women who will die as a result of this ruling. So, while the potential existed should the law change, no, I was not bothered by deaths that did not exist.

How do you account for aborted lives?

[Holly Martins]

So have you filled the deepfreeze yet with all your stored jizz?  Hope you're taking care of those billions of potential lives!

[kidcarter8]

Have to think more women will pay better attention to their birth control after "the ruling".