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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[LarryBnDC]

The DOJ refuses to release the affitdavit behind the raid of the Trump home guaranteeing weeks of leaks dom the duplicitous FBI through the mid terms.
Biden keeps the Rule Of Law under lock and key.
How predictable.

Tbe right continues to pretend normal investigative processes like not telling the crooks the information the cops have in an ongoing investigation is somehow a thing in order to avoid having to deal with the real issues of Trump potentially violating multiple laws. How predictable. You Comically Transparent Partisan Hack.

You and Josh might want to take your comedy team back into a rewrite and run throughs 25th a live audience.
Right now you are floundering.

You do know you are demanding the DOJ divulge sources and methods of intelligence gathering concerning national security?

[LarryBnDC]

Appropriate

https://mobile.twitter.com/staceycks1/status/1558928884900438017?s=21

[kidcarter8]

Already explained how releasing the affidavit either endangers one or more lives or prompts the same faux-outrage if the names are redacted.




Yeah, come on, man.   Josh EXPLAINED it.

[kidcarter8]

  You and Josh might want to take your comedy team back into a rewrite and run throughs 25th a live audience.
Right now you are floundering.
 
You are a waste of used electrons with nothing cogent to add.


 
Not exactly the WWE here.

[Hamilton Samuels]

Buy wheat.

[LarryBnDC]

This says Trump,is not getting the affidavit and also Trump is fucked.


https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854/gov.uscourts.flsd.617854.59.0_4.pdf

[josh]

The DOJ refuses to release the affitdavit behind the raid of the Trump home guaranteeing weeks of leaks dom the duplicitous FBI through the mid terms.
Biden keeps the Rule Of Law under lock and key.
How predictable.

Tbe right continues to pretend normal investigative processes like not telling the crooks the information the cops have in an ongoing investigation is somehow a thing in order to avoid having to deal with the real issues of Trump potentially violating multiple laws. How predictable. You Comically Transparent Partisan Hack.

You and Josh might want to take your comedy team back into a rewrite and run throughs 25th a live audience.
Right now you are floundering.

You do know you are demanding the DOJ divulge sources and methods of intelligence gathering concerning national security?

"But her emails!"

[josh]

Already explained how releasing the affidavit either endangers one or more lives or prompts the same faux-outrage if the names are redacted.




Yeah, come on, man.   Josh EXPLAINED it.

Because neither of the two of you seem to get it without multiple people explaining it multiple times.

[Espnthree]

Already explained how releasing the affidavit either endangers one or more lives or prompts the same faux-outrage if the names are redacted.




Yeah, come on, man.   Josh EXPLAINED it.

Because neither of the two of you seem to get it without multiple people explaining it multiple times.

Josh. You do understand that everything in the Warrant are items generated by the Trump Presidency and therefore, BY LAW, property of the
U S Government?
Once you acknowledge that we can move on to more relevant questions.

[josh]

Since clicking on your link and reading it seems beyond Ward's capacity and Kid has demonstrated an unwillingness to risk learning something from the links, I am posting most of page 8:

Disclosure at this juncture of the affidavit supporting probable cause would, by contrast, cause significant and irreparable damage to this ongoing criminal investigation. As the Court is aware from its review of the affidavit, it contains, among other critically important and detailed investigative facts: highly sensitive information about witnesses, including witnesses interviewed by the government; specific investigative techniques; and information required by law to be kept under seal pursuant to Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 6(e). If disclosed, the affidavit would serve as a roadmap to the government's ongoing investigation, providing specific details about its direction and likely course, in a manner that is highly likely to compromise future investigative steps. In addition, information about witnesses is particularly sensitive given the high-profile nature of this matter and the risk that the revelation of witness identities would impact their willingness to cooperate with the investigation.⁵

Disclosure of the government's affidavit at this stage would also likely chill future cooperation by witnesses whose assistance may be sought as this investigation progresses, as well as in other high-profile investigations. The fact that this
investigation implicates highly classified materials further underscores the need to protect the integrity of the investigation and exacerbates the potential for harm if information is disclosed to the public prematurely or improperly.<sup>6

5</sup> This is not merely a hypothetical concern, given the widely reported threats made against
law enforcement personnel in the wake of the August 8 search. See, e.g., Alan Feuer et al.,
"Armed Man Is Killed After Trying to Breach FBI's Cincinnati Office," N.Y. Times (Aug. 11,
2022), available at https://www.nytimes.com/live/2022/08/11/us/fbi-cincinnati-shootingnews; Josh Margolin, "Authorities Monitoring Online Threats Following FBI's Mar-a-Lago Raid," ABC News (Aug. 11, 2022), available at https://abcnews.go.com/US/authoritiesmonitoring-online-threats-fbis-mar-lago-raid/story?id=88199587.

[josh]

Already explained how releasing the affidavit either endangers one or more lives or prompts the same faux-outrage if the names are redacted.




Yeah, come on, man.   Josh EXPLAINED it.

Because neither of the two of you seem to get it without multiple people explaining it multiple times.

Josh. You do understand that everything in the Warrant are items generated by the Trump Presidency and therefore, BY LAW, property of the
U S Government?
Once you acknowledge that we can move on to more relevant questions.

You seem to have a difficult time grasping either how court cases work or the meaning of "classified" when applied to documents.

1) You have no idea whether all of the documents were generated by the Trump admin or not. They may include material generated during one or more prior administrations.

2) The materials belong to the federal government, but are not necessarily available to be seen by the public. Indeed, that lies at the crux of the dispute, don't you think?!

3) As soon as they were seized by the FBI as part of a case, the specific materials are theirs and the court's to control until the court or a higher court rules otherwise. Is that not your understanding, as well?

Whether Trump administration or Obama's or whoever's, control of the items rests with the judge.

As far as I can tell, you have no relevant questions or statements to share. But go ahead with your next question.

[facilitatorn]

The DOJ refuses to release the affitdavit behind the raid of the Trump home guaranteeing weeks of leaks dom the duplicitous FBI through the mid terms.
Biden keeps the Rule Of Law under lock and key.
How predictable.

Tbe right continues to pretend normal investigative processes like not telling the crooks the information the cops have in an ongoing investigation is somehow a thing in order to avoid having to deal with the real issues of Trump potentially violating multiple laws. How predictable. You Comically Transparent Partisan Hack.

You and Josh might want to take your comedy team back into a rewrite and run throughs 25th a live audience.
Right now you are floundering.

You do know you are demanding the DOJ divulge sources and methods of intelligence gathering concerning national security?

Of course he does. It is how he squares being a terrorist and just sensible enough to be a fucking pussy at the same time.

[facilitatorn]

Already explained how releasing the affidavit either endangers one or more lives or prompts the same faux-outrage if the names are redacted.




Yeah, come on, man.   Josh EXPLAINED it.

Because neither of the two of you seem to get it without multiple people explaining it multiple times.

Josh. You do understand that everything in the Warrant are items generated by the Trump Presidency and therefore, BY LAW, property of the
U S Government?
Once you acknowledge that we can move on to more relevant questions.

Acknowledge trump is no part of the US government beyond his status as ward of the state and that government property, ours, is the evidence that is skewering the porcine son of a bitch for his mishandling of it.

While we are waiting let us fire up a nice luau for dirty donald.

[Espnthree]

Josh. You do understand that everything in the Warrant are items generated by the Trump Presidency and therefore, BY LAW, property of the
U S Government?
Once you acknowledge that we can move on to more relevant questions.

You seem to have a difficult time grasping either how court cases work or the meaning of "classified" when applied to documents.

The term classified is irrelevant.So are you

1) You have no idea whether all of the documents were generated by the Trump admin or not. They may include material generated during one or more prior administrations.

Well neither the National Archives nr the DOJ agree with uou.

2) The materials belong to the federal government, but are not necessarily available to be seen by the public. Indeed, that lies at the crux of the dispute, don't you think?!

in a word , NO

3) As soon as they were seized by the FBI as part of a case, the specific materials are theirs and the court's to control until the court or a higher court rules otherwise. Is that not your understanding, as well?

Of course not. fBI was only retrieving government  property.

Whether Trump administration or Obama's or whoever's, control of the items rests with the judge.

No, it is a matter of law.

[facilitatorn]

Appropriate

https://mobile.twitter.com/staceycks1/status/1558928884900438017?s=21

She would be a much better president than the stunted oaf she is talking to.