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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[facilitatorn]

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The top election official, be it attorney general, Secretary of State, or another official must sit out the last election cycle that occurs during their term in office.

The purpose of the above injunction is to prevent those holding that office from shoehorning themselves directly into a higher office or to maintain their position by abusing the power given to them under the public trust.

[Hairy Lime]

I think you mean first, not last.

[Oilcandide]

It is worth asking what constitutional authority DeSantis has to purge elected officials who disagree with him.

the Florida Constitution might be your first reference point for clarity.
DeSantis said the suspension was because the official announced he would not follow the law.
Quite a different take than yours.
An elected official cannot disregard the law and hide behind the ballot box.

Not pursuing criminal prosecutions is an option state prosecutors often take, which is not a violation of the law.  If it were, why hasn't DeSantis suspended several county sheriffs and prosecutors who have refused to prosecute violations of certain gun laws in Florida?  This point came up in early August and DeSantis had no explanation.  Looks like he only suspends prosecutors who disagree with him and whose suspension makes political theater in his Trumpy culture war he's ramping up for a 2024 run.

As for your last line, let me remind you that you expressed quite a different view Jan. 2017 -- Jan. 2021.  In those times you were all "let the voters decide!"

Might want to get your apples and oranges in the proper baskets.
The decision to prosecute an individual is based onmany factors.
The outright defiance of a law regardless of circumstances is not the same.
Surely you cannot be that naive.

So how do you answer the direct question Bart put to you?

...why hasn't DeSantis suspended several county sheriffs and prosecutors who have refused to prosecute violations of certain gun laws in Florida?     

All the reasons DeSanity gave to suspend Warren would apply to the gun scofflaws as well.  Yet he does nothing.

[Espnthree]

So how do you answer the direct question Bart put to you?

.why hasn't DeSantis suspended several county sheriffs and prosecutors who have refused to prosecute violations of certain gun laws in Florida?     

Because those were case by case decisions by sheriffs and prosecutors.
Warren simply vowed not to enforce a law, under any circumstances.
The DeSantis suspension of Warren was applauded by the statewide sheriffs association.


An organization representing Florida 67 county sheriffs filed a legal brief late Tuesday supporting Gov. Ron DeSantis suspension of Hillsborough State Attorney Andrew Warren.

[Holly Martins]

So how do you answer the direct question Bart put to you?

.why hasn't DeSantis suspended several county sheriffs and prosecutors who have refused to prosecute violations of certain gun laws in Florida?     

Because those were case by case decisions by sheriffs and prosecutors.
Warren simply vowed not to enforce a law, under any circumstances...

Wrong.  The sheriffs also vowed, in public statements, not to enforce the gun laws.  They were not case by case decisions.  Widely reported in major news outlets.

Why didn't DeSantis suspend them?  Just admit what the reason is.  It's obvious.  Why defend a hypocrite?

[Espnthree]

So how do you answer the direct question Bart put to you?

.why hasn't DeSantis suspended several county sheriffs and prosecutors who have refused to prosecute violations of certain gun laws in Florida?     

Because those were case by case decisions by sheriffs and prosecutors.
Warren simply vowed not to enforce a law, under any circumstances...

Wrong.  The sheriffs also vowed, in public statements, not to enforce the gun laws.  They were not case by case decisions.  Widely reported in major news outlets.

Why didn't DeSantis suspend them?  Just admit what the reason is.  It's obvious.  Why defend a hypocrite?

In addition to getting your name right get your facts straight, too.

[facilitatorn]

I think you mean first, not last.

I mean last. If they have a four year term the first election cycle would usually be halfway through their term of service since most of those terms run four years. As the change would essentially make those jobs single term propositions, some states may want to extend those terms to six years or beyond, which would be fine.

It might be better to prohibit them from running in any election that they control at any time during their term. I leave that open to further debate.

[facilitatorn]

So how do you answer the direct question Bart put to you?

.why hasn't DeSantis suspended several county sheriffs and prosecutors who have refused to prosecute violations of certain gun laws in Florida?     

Because those were case by case decisions by sheriffs and prosecutors.
Warren simply vowed not to enforce a law, under any circumstances...

Wrong.  The sheriffs also vowed, in public statements, not to enforce the gun laws.  They were not case by case decisions.  Widely reported in major news outlets.

Why didn't DeSantis suspend them?  Just admit what the reason is.  It's obvious.  Why defend a hypocrite?

In addition to getting your name right get your facts straight, too.

Ward hates to come out and admit he is a fascist. DeSantis gives ward a wet leg with his cowardly cruelty. For ward that is reason enough.

[facilitatorn]

http://m.dailykos.com/stories/2022/9/23/2124881/-Veterans-fight-fascism-with-special-report-on-Patriot-Front-showing-prosecutors-how-to-go-after-them

[Espnthree]

White House vows to walk back Biden comments once they figure out what he said. 🤣

[facilitatorn]

Ward demonstrates how the work of his betters goes straight over his head.

Go back to licking toilets, ward. It is the only talent you have ever managed to cultivate.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2022/09/24/the-white-conservative-southern-women-asked-me-to-keep-their-abortions-secret/

[kidcarter8]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/beto-orourke-blames-biden-more-texas-latinos-voting-gop


Who says Beto is irrelevant?

Heh - working for the other side

[LarryBnDC]

http://www.salon.com/2022/09/24/the-white-conservative-southern-women-asked-me-to-keep-their-abortions-secret/

In many cases, it is only due to gerrymandering and voter suppression that red staters suffer under minority conservative rule. There are far more progressives in my hometown than outsiders realize, and advocates like Jamie have always fought to make certain everyone here has access to reproductive care.

[Espnthree]

democrats diss Herschel Walker mainly because he is a black republican.
The same standard for dissing  Clarence Thomas

There is quite a bit of difference between the two men in achievements but the primal reason for democrats to abhor both has nothing to do with reason.

Democrats cannot look past the color of their skin.