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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[OliveOil]

The general we, you CPH.  American employers, public and private, etc.  Why no cry of "preposterous" when 79% of civilian workers get paid sick leave? 

[bambu.]

"US President Joe Biden and Prince William have met in Boston in a strong public display of US and British solidarity, amid a myriad of global threats."

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Ah yes. ye olde ' Boston Tea Party' mk 2.

AUKUS alliance in action.

[facilitatorn]

You should have used a small a.

aUKUS.

[bambu.]

You should have used a small a.

aUKUS.

Nah, capital A is relative.
Britain owes A bigtime.
Make it:
AUK-US if you like.

[Espnthree]

The general we, you CPH.  American employers, public and private, etc.  Why no cry of "preposterous" when 79% of civilian workers get paid sick leave?

Good for them.
But the Railroads made a generous offer to the unions, which most of them accepted.
A minority of union workers were willing to strike and decimate our economy over an issue that did not resonate with the majority of fellow workers.

And the Senate (and the President) agreed.

Having Congress renegotiating labor contracts is stupid. 
Thanks to Manchin joining 42 republicans in nixing such an idiotic demand, even though his No vote was not needed.

[LarryB!]

I would of course yap about them voting no on sick leave, but they were mostly behaving as expected.  I wanted more from Biden, who promised to deliver for working people.  Sometimes he needs to be more adversarial and not just have some people superficially holding hands.  The railroads certainly would not want supply chain collapses around Christmas and possibly losing huge chunks to trucking and shipping...they would have come to the table on sick leave if they had to.

GOP did not want to take a hit on the strike but said no in the time off and somehow that is on Biden?

I guess Obama did not pass on his Green Lantern Ring of Power to Biden so he could just make legislation through sheer will.

Just saying Biden shouldn't applaud this deal.  He should send it back unsigned, ask legislators to come up with something better, and point out the barbarity of zero days sick leave in no uncertain terms.  I'm not saying that the sick leave debacle isn't on Manchin and GOP callousness.  Biden needs to point that out.

Over 20 per cent of Americans get no sick leave. And most of them are paid far less than railroad workers.
The demand for seven was outrageous given the raises and payouts negotiated by Biden.

To your first sentence:  logical fallacy.  Just because others lack an important workplace protection, doesn't mean unions should capitulate on fighting for such protections when they can. 

3/4ths of the unions agreed on negotiations without the added sick days.

To your second comment:  Good pay does not displace the need for sick days.

They are getting one full year of back pay which will more than cover 7 sick days per each of  the four years of the new contract.

Bruh

What? You have to put in a request for a sick day in May? What happens if your appendix blows out next Wednesday?

[facilitatorn]

These are not real concerns to Red, a nonworker and useless mouth.

[kiidcarter8]

What they think is ok:

Law firm employing Hunter Biden gets 10 mil PPP loan, which is later forgiven by Biden administration.

Same law firm gave 1 mil to Democrat candidates election funds.

[Hairy Lime]

The general we, you CPH.  American employers, public and private, etc.  Why no cry of "preposterous" when 79% of civilian workers get paid sick leave?

Good for them.
But the Railroads made a generous offer to the unions, which most of them accepted.
A minority of union workers were willing to strike and decimate our economy over an issue that did not resonate with the majority of fellow workers.

And the Senate (and the President) agreed.

Having Congress renegotiating labor contracts is stupid. 

They just did exactly that.

Thanks to Manchin joining 42 republicans in nixing such an idiotic demand, even though his No vote was not needed.

A benefit 80% of American workers is hardly idiotic. You want to take a guess what railroad company employees I guarantee you do not lose a day of pay when they are sick? And are far more highly compensated?

[LarryB!]

What they think is ok:

Law firm employing Hunter Biden gets 10 mil PPP loan, which is later forgiven by Biden administration.

Same law firm gave 1 mil to Democrat candidates election funds.

Yeah, and?

Rep. Katie Porter is investigating an alleged bribery scheme involving Donald Trump and a real estate developer who allegedly donated to a super PAC in exchange for Trump pardons.

https://naturalresources.house.gov/imo/media/doc/2022.12.02%20Grijalva%20Porter%20to%20Haaland%20re%20Hammond%20pardon%20REDACTED.pdf

[DeeJ]

Til the New Year

[Espnthree]

Democrats Vow To Find New Social Platform

That Will Censor The News About What They Did On Twitter

LOL!

[bambu.]

"A woman gets pregnant, she's 9 months, she walks across the border, she has the baby in the United States...and we look after it for 85 yesrs. I don't think so."
--- Donald Trump

[Yankguy1]

The Constitution grants citizenship to that baby born in the United States.

What does Trump want?  To get rid of the Constitution?  Wait.......

[kidcarter8]

You haven't been paying very good attention.