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Should the US be concerned about an invasion of Ukraine by Russia?

Very
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Some
- 4 (33.3%)
Not sure
- 0 (0%)
Not really
- 1 (8.3%)
Not in the slightest
- 1 (8.3%)

Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33555 on: March 20, 2023, 10:53:02 PM »

No indictment in New York this week of Trump.
Meaning
No indictment.
Ever.
Liar. Considering the Grand Jury is still taking testimony, including from a Trump lawyer you are either lying or an idiot. Though in your case, they are certainly not mutually exclusive alternatives.
Testimony is over. Might want to review the last witness today.
It was a reminder that the DA is left with a case where his primary witnesses are a hooker and a convicted perjurer in a seven year old case that federal prosecutors walked away from.


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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33556 on: March 20, 2023, 11:06:46 PM »

No indictment in New York this week of Trump.
Meaning
No indictment.
Ever.
Liar. Considering the Grand Jury is still taking testimony, including from a Trump lawyer you are either lying or an idiot. Though in your case, they are certainly not mutually exclusive alternatives.
Testimony is over. Might want to review the last witness today.
It was a reminder that the DA is left with a case where his primary witnesses are a hooker and a convicted perjurer
Liar. None of those statements is true.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33557 on: March 20, 2023, 11:12:33 PM »

No indictment in New York this week of Trump.
Meaning
No indictment.
Ever.
Liar. Considering the Grand Jury is still taking testimony, including from a Trump lawyer you are either lying or an idiot. Though in your case, they are certainly not mutually exclusive alternatives.
Testimony is over. Might want to review the last witness today.
It was a reminder that the DA is left with a case where his primary witnesses are a hooker and a convicted perjurer
Liar. None of those statements is true.

If Red is suggesting trump hang himself before the arrest and not after, it might be the best legal advice trump has gotten all year, and that from a guy who is known to eat paste.

Rudy should be ashamed of himself.
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Espnthree

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33558 on: March 20, 2023, 11:16:18 PM »

No indictment in New York this week of Trump.
Meaning
No indictment.
Ever.
Liar. Considering the Grand Jury is still taking testimony, including from a Trump lawyer you are either lying or an idiot. Though in your case, they are certainly not mutually exclusive alternatives.
Testimony is over. Might want to review the last witness today.
It was a reminder that the DA is left with a case where his primary witnesses are a hooker and a convicted perjurer
Liar. None of those statements is true.
All of them are.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33559 on: March 20, 2023, 11:32:39 PM »

No indictment in New York this week of Trump.
Meaning
No indictment.
Ever.
Liar. Considering the Grand Jury is still taking testimony, including from a Trump lawyer you are either lying or an idiot. Though in your case, they are certainly not mutually exclusive alternatives.
Testimony is over. Might want to review the last witness today.
It was a reminder that the DA is left with a case where his primary witnesses are a hooker and a convicted perjurer
Liar. None of those statements is true.
All of them are.
Liar.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33560 on: March 21, 2023, 12:08:42 AM »

No indictment in New York this week of Trump.
Meaning
No indictment.
Ever.
Liar. Considering the Grand Jury is still taking testimony, including from a Trump lawyer you are either lying or an idiot. Though in your case, they are certainly not mutually exclusive alternatives.
Testimony is over. Might want to review the last witness today.
It was a reminder that the DA is left with a case where his primary witnesses are a hooker and a convicted perjurer in a seven year old case that federal prosecutors walked away from.

Federal prosecutors under the Barr DOJ?

ROFLMAO
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33561 on: March 21, 2023, 12:37:04 AM »

The GOP tried to pick on trans kids only to find they are still the party of trump and trump has always been weaker than trans kids.

Let
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33562 on: March 21, 2023, 11:20:57 AM »



Federal prosecutors under the Barr DOJ?

ROFLMAO
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33563 on: March 21, 2023, 11:27:57 AM »

What's past is prologue.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33564 on: March 21, 2023, 12:53:22 PM »



Federal prosecutors under the Barr DOJ?

ROFLMAO
Well, no.

The federal prosecutor Southern District of New York that passed on Federal charges against Trump was Audrey Strauss who was first appointed to the District under Jimmy Carter.
She and other prosecutors  did not consider charging Trump at the time because of longstanding Justice Department guidance that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Also, the January 6 riots amid Trump led protests of the 2020 election made a campaign finance matter seem like small potatoes.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33565 on: March 21, 2023, 12:54:03 PM »

What's past is prologue.
First get the past right
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33566 on: March 21, 2023, 01:35:17 PM »



Federal prosecutors under the Barr DOJ?

ROFLMAO
Well, no.

The federal prosecutor Southern District of New York that passed on Federal charges against Trump was Audrey Strauss who was first appointed to the District under Jimmy Carter.
She and other prosecutors  did not consider charging Trump at the time because of longstanding Justice Department guidance that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Also, the January 6 riots amid Trump led protests of the 2020 election made a campaign finance matter seem like small potatoes.
The bolded is the big reason why DoJ's decision not to prosecute in 2019 is irrelevant to the decision the NY AG is making, despite your claim otherwise. Also ignored by you: Trump appointed US Attorney for the SD NY Geoffrey Berman Bill Barr intervened, as did other political appointees, to quash the investigation.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33567 on: March 21, 2023, 02:36:31 PM »



Federal prosecutors under the Barr DOJ?

ROFLMAO
Well, no.

The federal prosecutor Southern District of New York that passed on Federal charges against Trump was Audrey Strauss who was first appointed to the District under Jimmy Carter.
She and other prosecutors  did not consider charging Trump at the time because of longstanding Justice Department guidance that a sitting president cannot be indicted. Also, the January 6 riots amid Trump led protests of the 2020 election made a campaign finance matter seem like small potatoes.
The bolded is the big reason why DoJ's decision not to prosecute in 2019 is irrelevant to the decision the NY AG is making, despite your claim otherwise.
What claim? All I did was state facts. Federal prosecutors did not bring charges.
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Also ignored by you: Trump appointed US Attorney for the SD NY Geoffrey Berman Bill Barr intervened, as did other political appointees, to quash the investigation.
Berman was never appointed by Trump.  He was designated US Attorney by Jeff Sessions and earned approval by unanimous vote of the Southern District Justices. Berman may have pissed off Trump by investigating  Rudy Giuliani which led to his ouster.  But it certainly was not to quash anything to do with the Cohen kerfuffle. If it was Barr would not have let Audrey Strauss take over. She had the full backing of Berman. Strauss is clearly bi partisan politically and passed on any federal prosecution of Trump.
What Bragg is doing is blatantly political and, if carried out, could backfire on the democrats by electing Trump to another term as Elon Musk has predicted. 
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33568 on: March 21, 2023, 03:41:01 PM »

If the facts and law support charging Trump, and neither you nor I know what the NY DA has - NOT charging Trump is the "blatantly political" path.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #33569 on: March 21, 2023, 04:24:27 PM »

If the facts and law support charging Trump, and neither you nor I know what the NY AG has - NOT charging Trump is the "blatantly political" path.
LOL
We already know the facts and the law.
So did the federal prosecutors who decided not to prosecute.
What is inexplicable this go around is a prosecutor known for downgrading charges has to UPGRADE a misdemeanor to a felony a campaign finance violation the sort of thing that Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were fined for, not put on trial.
There is only one reason for an unprecedented indictment of a ex President, it is because the subject is Donald Trump. Even those who hate him, republicans and democrats , see it as the chief democrat strategy of the 2024 Presidential Election.
Otherwise known as Blatant Politics.
But there could be a silver lining.
That strategy could backfire and knock out BOTH  Biden and Trump and we could move on to decent candidates from both parties.
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