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Should the US be concerned about an invasion of Ukraine by Russia?

Very
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Not really
- 1 (8.3%)
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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM


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Hairy Lime

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38055 on: November 28, 2023, 05:04:29 PM »

The father should always have a say?
Does that surprise you?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38056 on: November 28, 2023, 05:07:04 PM »

A bit. That kind of utterance usually comes from Bambu.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38057 on: November 28, 2023, 05:15:01 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38058 on: November 28, 2023, 05:19:18 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
Then let him carry it to term.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38059 on: November 28, 2023, 05:47:46 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
What if the father is a rapist?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38060 on: November 28, 2023, 06:21:20 PM »

Just to make my position known I am against easy abortions with the father not having a choice.
Is any abortion easy?
And how do you define Father?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38061 on: November 28, 2023, 07:20:47 PM »

Two very good questions.

I would define a father as someone who should have no legal say in whether an abortion happens or not, similar to a priest, judge or congressperson. That is not the entire definition but the part relevant to this discussion at the moment.

A father can try to be persuasive within the confines of non abusive non coercive behavior, but the decision should always be between the mother and her doctor.

No abortion, birth, or rearing is ever easy no matter what people tell you.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38062 on: November 28, 2023, 08:49:57 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
What if the father is a rapist?

A rapist would lose any right to the foetus, surely.

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38063 on: November 28, 2023, 09:24:52 PM »

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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38064 on: November 28, 2023, 09:42:30 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
What if the father is a rapist?
What if he is not?
What if he is a loving spouse and birth control failed?
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38065 on: November 28, 2023, 09:44:03 PM »

Is he pregnant?  I think you keep missing a key piece of information here.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38066 on: November 28, 2023, 09:55:26 PM »

Is he pregnant?  I think you keep missing a key piece of information here.
Say goodnight, Gracie
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38067 on: November 28, 2023, 09:58:33 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
What if the father is a rapist?
What if he is not?
What if he is a loving spouse and birth control failed?
Fair questions I guess. I guess the only time a woman can be trusted to decide what to do with her body is when she is raped.

If a "loving spouse" can prevent an abortion would that "loving spouse" be able to compel an abortion?   
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38068 on: November 28, 2023, 10:10:46 PM »

The father should always have a say.
Hire a good lawyer, the baby is half his.
What if the father is a rapist?
What if he is not?
What if he is a loving spouse and birth control failed?
Fair questions I guess. I guess the only time a woman can be trusted to decide what to do with her body is when she is raped.

If a "loving spouse" can prevent an abortion would that "loving spouse" be able to compel an abortion?
The question was about a father having a say.
That does not mean he prevails.
The spouses have to work out the solution, but the father has a say.
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Re: Biden Administration
« Reply #38069 on: November 28, 2023, 10:15:11 PM »

What happens if they can't "work out the solution"? 
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