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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[jmmengel]

You realize CAFE made owning an IC car more affordable and reduced US need for imported oil, right? 

Uh, no. Not in any way.

The F stood for fuel, in case that escaped your attention.

LOL. Glad you googled CAFE standards so you get informed yourself.

Pretty much everyone who benefited from CAFE liked it.

except of course the auto manufacturers who saw sales plummet. In ten years the standards had to be scrapped for more realistic ones.
Usually happens when politicians try to interfere with markets.

[jmmengel]

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Howfucking naive are you?  Obama began the groundwork for All EVs with Cafe Standrds bullshit. The Climate Change Crowd lapped it and Joe thinks it will keep him in the White House.
Except consumers are not buying now. You want a sure fire investment? Get into used cars with a service contract. People will not give up their love of the ICE and the freedom to go where they want when they want.

Whatever.

Thanks for agreeing.

[Hairy Lime]

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Howfucking naive are you?  Obama began the groundwork for All EVs with Cafe Standrds bullshit. The Climate Change Crowd lapped it and Joe thinks it will keep him in the White House.
Except consumers are not buying now. You want a sure fire investment? Get into used cars with a service contract. People will not give up their love of the ICE and the freedom to go where they want when they want.

Whatever. The fact remains that you deliberately LIED about Biden's policy. And the fact remains that attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Thanks for agreeing.

I restored the part you accidentally cut. You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

[jmmengel]

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Howfucking naive are you?  Obama began the groundwork for All EVs with Cafe Standrds bullshit. The Climate Change Crowd lapped it and Joe thinks it will keep him in the White House.
Except consumers are not buying now. You want a sure fire investment? Get into used cars with a service contract. People will not give up their love of the ICE and the freedom to go where they want when they want.

Whatever. The fact remains that you deliberately LIED about Biden's policy. And the fact remains that attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Thanks for agreeing.

I restored the part you accidentally cut. You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Be sure and check back when you are no longer drinking.

[Hairy Lime]

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

Whatever. The point is attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Howfucking naive are you?  Obama began the groundwork for All EVs with Cafe Standrds bullshit. The Climate Change Crowd lapped it and Joe thinks it will keep him in the White House.
Except consumers are not buying now. You want a sure fire investment? Get into used cars with a service contract. People will not give up their love of the ICE and the freedom to go where they want when they want.

Whatever. The fact remains that you deliberately LIED about Biden's policy. And the fact remains that attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden is, flat out, a blatant lie. You PROVEN LIAR.

Thanks for agreeing.

I restored the part you accidentally cut. You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Be sure and check back when you are no longer drinking.

I would say check back when you are no longer an intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR but that will never happen. Because that is who you are.

And you have never even tried to justify attributing "All EVs by 2032" as a policy end for Joe Biden over a day of posts. Because you cannot. Liar.

[Hairy Lime]

All EVs by 2032?
Joe Biden cannot be serious( beyond pandering to the looney left).

I realize that flat out lying about Biden's policy positions is your metier, and that you have no concern for even appearing to have any intellectual honesty, but under what possible legitimate use of the English language does an EPA rule calling for 35% to 56% EVs manufactured by 2032 constitute "All EVs by 2032"? You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Another instance where Hairy misinterprets the goals of Joe Biden.

Intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR cannot defend his statement. Instead of disputing what the Biden Administration has actually set as a goal which he cannot do because of those pesky actual facts, he invents a "goal"
 that is directly contradicted by the actual stated goal of the EPA. LIAR.

The only goal Biden has in mind is getting more people to vote for him.
The 2032 garbage is just for show.
No one can make Americans buy something they do not want.

American consumers wanted more varieties of color in automobiles. Henry Ford saidYou can buy a Model T in any color you would like; as long as it is black!

When the charging grid is built out and the uncertainty of long trips diminishes folks will buy EVs.

I was not going to let RedDick get away with his bull shit lie about Biden's EV policy yesterday, but I did find it amusing that he believes EV technology and customer demand will both remain precisely what they are now, forever. What idiotic "thinking."

[facilitatorn]

Red still thinks women are wired the same way that they were in 1950. Why would he be able to follow the more recent evolutions in EV development or or other developments in clean energy?

[jmmengel]

I did find it amusing that he believes EV technology and customer demand will both remain precisely what they are today.

We grew up singing See the USA in your Chevrolet in the USA! ( along with Dinah Shore)
Still do, but not in an EV unless you have a lot more time on your hands along with money to first purchase  then maintain the car.  It may be a show off second vehicle to drive but it will never match the market for todays Chevvie du jour.
A gas lighting Biden may dream of all EVs all the  time as soon as 2032 but it is not going to happen at anytime.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.newsweek.com/republicans-jordan-comer-reject-motion-moskowitz-impeach-joe-biden-1881572

[facilitatorn]

See the USA in your Chevrolet in the USA.



Todays Chevvie du jour.

[facilitatorn]

http://www.salon.com/2024/03/21/wildly-unusual-legal-experts-raise-questions-after-report-that-two-of-cannons-clerks-quit/?in_brief=true

When trump goes down for the docs he may very well be taking his judge down with him.

[Hairy Lime]

I did find it amusing that he believes EV technology and customer demand will both remain precisely what they are today.

We grew up singing See the USA in your Chevrolet in the USA! ( along with Dinah Shore)
Still do, but not in an EV unless you have a lot more time on your hands along with money to first purchase  then maintain the car.  It may be a show off second vehicle to drive but it will never match the market for todays Chevvie du jour.

"Never". What an idiot you are.

For the record I have an electric and its price (used) was in line with gas, and the maintenance and operating cost is cheaper with the comparable gas cars i have owned. And whe i also have the gas car for driving beyond the EV range, I am not stupid enough to claim those range issues will "never" be resolved.

A gas lighting Biden may dream of all EVs all the  time as soon as 2032 but it is not going to happen at anytime.

You are gaslightng by saying again, absolutely without support and directly contrary to actual EPA rules, that Biden wants to go all electric by 2032. It is 35%. You unrepentant intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

[jmmengel]

I did find it amusing that he believes EV technology and customer demand will both remain precisely what they are today.

We grew up singing See the USA in your Chevrolet in the USA! ( along with Dinah Shore)
Still do, but not in an EV unless you have a lot more time on your hands along with money to first purchase  then maintain the car.  It may be a show off second vehicle to drive but it will never match the market for todays Chevvie du jour.

"Never". What an idiot you are.

For the record I have an electric and its price (used) was in line with gas, and the maintenance and operating cost is cheaper with the comparable gas cars i have owned. And whe i also have the gas car for driving beyond the EV range, I am not stupid enough to claim those range issues will "never" be resolved.

A gas lighting Biden may dream of all EVs all the  time as soon as 2032 but it is not going to happen at anytime.

You are gaslightng by saying again, absolutely without support and directly contrary to actual EPA rules, that Biden wants to go all electric by 2032. It is 35%. You unrepentant intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Yawn

[Hairy Lime]

I did find it amusing that he believes EV technology and customer demand will both remain precisely what they are today.

We grew up singing See the USA in your Chevrolet in the USA! ( along with Dinah Shore)
Still do, but not in an EV unless you have a lot more time on your hands along with money to first purchase  then maintain the car.  It may be a show off second vehicle to drive but it will never match the market for todays Chevvie du jour.

"Never". What an idiot you are.

For the record I have an electric and its price (used) was in line with gas, and the maintenance and operating cost is cheaper with the comparable gas cars i have owned. And whe i also have the gas car for driving beyond the EV range, I am not stupid enough to claim those range issues will "never" be resolved.

A gas lighting Biden may dream of all EVs all the  time as soon as 2032 but it is not going to happen at anytime.

You are gaslightng by saying again, absolutely without support and directly contrary to actual EPA rules, that Biden wants to go all electric by 2032. It is 35%. You unrepentant intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

Yawn

RedDick's implicit admission that he cannot dispute anything i posted. The unrepentant intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

[facilitatorn]

Red will retrofit his hooptie in a few years when it becomes clearly cheaper than trying to keep feeding it gas. He will try to have the techs pipe in fake engine noise so he can hear the many misfires he has become used to because he has never learned to drive or maintain it properly.