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Total Members Voted: 11

Voting closed: February 15, 2022, 10:51:36 AM

[bambu.]

Saw on my news the other day...
para:
"chaos in Congress as members trade insults"
*
one insult something about eyelashes.

Speaker should've blown an airhorn and said:

"Excuse me! This is not elementary school!"

[facilitatorn]

The caucus that chose the speaker is essentially an elementary level summer camp for recidivist criminals who do not read so good.

In the case of marge, her horrible face has long since eaten her brain so there is no reason to expect anything better from her ever.

You two would probably get along. I have to warn you though if you talk to her too long she will almost certainly try to get you to buy her hard drugs.

[luee]

Live updates: Iranian President Raisi is confirmed dead in helicopter crash

Billions for a bomb not a penny for a new copter. One of the really screwed up sociieties of contemporary times.

[Hairy Lime]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Trump in 2020.
Obama in 2012.
Bush in 2004
Clinton in 1996.
Bush in 1992
Reagan in 1984

Or, and hear me out on this, Presidential debates have become an expected and ingrained part of the process to the extent that not debating, as the incumbent, is seen as a sign of weakness and fear. And you and Maher are a couple of intellectually dishonest hacks who just made that conclusion up for this case. And had Biden not agreed, you would be deriding him as not doing so because he is not mentally fit for the job. You intellectually dishonest PROVEN LIAR.

[jmmengel]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.

[Hairy Lime]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.

So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.

[jmmengel]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.

So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.

Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

[Hairy Lime]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.

So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.

Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

It has to do with this bit of ignorant foolishness you subscribed to: "Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate". Your typically dishonest attempt to lie about the point notwithstanding.

[jmmengel]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.

So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.

Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

It has to do with this bit of ignorant foolishness you subscribed to: "Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate". Your typically dishonest attempt to lie about the point notwithstanding.

Well,he is losing in the polls.
He refused to discuss the debates for weeks.
He finally agreed after demanding the debate commission be scrapped, the elimination of a live audience, and the elimination of a third party candidate.  And he limited the debates to two, with just one when voting has started.
And he simply refuses to talk about calls for more debates.

I agree with Maher that despite being the incumbent Biden is acting as the challenger.
That conclusion is not an outlier in the media.

[Hairy Lime]

Bill Maher recognizes the Emperors clothing

T o me it says Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate. Only the loser wants to debate.

Trump wanted to debate too, and had been speaking about it for months. So what conclusion would you draw from that?

The challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

So an incumbent agreeing to a debate knows he is losing? Like...

Joe Biden

If you want to change the subject, as you usually do, have at it.
But you suck at history and research.

2020 Trump, the incumbent, was the clear underdog in a pandemic year. Still, he picked up 7 million votes
from his 2016 Count.

Obama in 2012 was in a statistical tie with Romney, the challenger

Bush in 2004  was tied with Gore

Clinton in 1996 had a huge lead over Dole but it was a three way race with Perot.
No incumbent would leave the debate stage to two opponents

Bush in 1992 also three way.


Reagan in 1984 landslide in the polls and the voting but Reagan was fighting back from high inflation in his first term.

So to be clear: every incumbent since Ford has agreed to debates with their major party opponent. Every. One.

Every one.
What that has to do with my previous statement is known only to you.
the challenger always wants to debate the incumbent.

It has to do with this bit of ignorant foolishness you subscribed to: "Biden knows he is losing because otherwise he would not have agreed to a debate". Your typically dishonest attempt to lie about the point notwithstanding.

Well,he is losing in the polls.
He refused to discuss the debates for weeks.
He finally agreed after demanding the debate commission be scrapped, the elimination of a live audience, and the elimination of a third party candidate.  And he limited the debates to two, with just one when voting has started.
And he simply refuses to talk about calls for more debates.

I agree with Maher that despite being the incumbent Biden is acting as the challenger.
That conclusion is not an outlier in the media.

Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls. For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.

And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.

[jmmengel]

Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls.
For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.

Bill Maher represents  right wing media?

And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.

If Trump objected to the Biden rules he kept quiet.
What I feel about Biden is that his presidency has no credibility.
Seems a lot of voters across all demographic lines have similar feelings

[facilitatorn]

If trump felt he had any chance to stay close in the presidential race without debating President Biden he would have ducked the debates. Trump is a coward and remembers getting his clock cleaned in debate last cycle when more people thought of him as a national political figure and not purely as a lousy fucking crook. Trump is also hoping to use scheduled presidential debates to delay the start date of the prison sentence he is about to be handed. Republicans have the candidate who perfectly reflects their values and priorities. Unlike the last couple of cycles, no amount of bush money can cover that up

[Hairy Lime]

Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls.
For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.

Bill Maher represents  right wing media?

Well, generally speaking he represents idiots. There is just a significant overlap in the Venn diagram.

And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.

If Trump objected to the Biden rules he kept quiet.

I take it you do not follow the news closely. Your idol and his campaign are already bitching about the format, the news organizations sponsoring the debates, and the moderators.

What I feel about Biden ... has no credibility.

FIFY.

[jmmengel]

Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls.
For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.

Bill Maher represents  right wing media?

Well, generally speaking he represents idiots. There is just a significant overlap in the Venn diagram.

And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.

If Trump objected to the Biden rules he kept quiet.

I take it you do not follow the news closely. Your idol and his campaign are already bitching about the format, the news organizations sponsoring the debates, and the moderators.

What I feel about Biden ... he has no credibility.

FIFY.

Thanks.  That is what I said.

[Hairy Lime]

Both parties scrapped the Commission, because the debate schedule had the debates after a significant number of voters had already voted. And Biden was always going to agree to debates, even if he were ahead in the polls.
For reasons that would be obvious if you had the wit to imagine what the reaction in the right wing media you get all your opinions from would be if he didn't.

Bill Maher represents  right wing media?

Well, generally speaking he represents idiots. There is just a significant overlap in the Venn diagram.

And I like your tacit admission that Biben's people out maneuvered the Trump campaign in setting the debate rules. Though you might not understand what you are actually saying because as a Trump lover you cannot credit Biden with anything.

If Trump objected to the Biden rules he kept quiet.

I take it you do not follow the news closely. Your idol and his campaign are already bitching about the format, the news organizations sponsoring the debates, and the moderators.

What I feel about Biden ... has no credibility.

FIFY.

Thanks.  That is what I said.

ok